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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [kyfdx] by delfer
May 02, 2007 (8:16 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 02, 2007 7:18 pm)

Thanks kyfdx, for the quick response. I got a final quote today, and thought I still wasn't being given details. Tell me what you think of this:
 
BMW 2007 3.0SI
 Base Price $42,400.00
 0205 STEPTRONIC Automatic Transmission 1,275.00
 0ZPP Premium Package 2,750.00
 0ZSP Sports Package 1,200.00
 0494 Heated Front Seats 500.00
 0522 Xenon Adaptive Headlights 700.00
 0609 Navigation System 1,800.00
  Destination and Handling 775.00
 
 TOTAL AS EQUIPPED $51,400.00
 SELLING PRICE $48,380.00
 
Term 36 Months
Mileage 12,000 /year
Residual Value $33,410.00
 
Cash on Delivery $1,010.25
Monthly Payment $533.76
Tax (8.25%) $44.03
Total Mo. Payment $577.79
 
Here are the specific questions I plan to ask the dealer:
 
1. What is the breakdown of cash on delivery?
2. What is the residual factor and money factor for this quote?
3. Will you accept a $500 over invoice offer or $47,820 versus $48,380?
 
My questions to you kyfdx, are:
 
1. For this car this month, can I do better than $500 over invoice? Is it even possible to get the car from under invoice as "fightingchance.com" claims, if I wait until the end of the month?
 
2. If my offer of $48,380 is accepted, how should that break down as far as:
     a. Amount due at signing
     b. Monthly payments
 
3. What should the residual and money factor be?
 
Thank you for your quick response. I am looking to close this deal in the next few days, if possible.
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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [delfer] by kyfdx HOST
May 03, 2007 (2:58 am)
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Replying to: delfer (May 02, 2007 8:16 pm)

1) I think "fightingchance.com" might be speaking generically about waiting till the end of the month, etc.. Unless there are specific BMW-to-dealer incentives on this model, then $500 over invoice is probably the best you can do.
 
2) I assume you meant that if your lower offer is accepted, how much will it change the payments? $560 lower selling price will drop the payment around $17/mo. That won't affect the due at signing by much.
 
3) According to the quotes you were given, the base MF is .0010 and the residual for 3yr/36K is 65%, which is what I show for April. They are likely the same numbers for May.
 
On your last quote, they dropped the security deposit, but added the sec.deposit waiver to the MF, raising it to .00115
 
This is why the payment is higher. Make sure you make a security deposit, and get the lower money factor.
 
You have a decent deal on the table..
 
regards,
kyfdx
#462 of 495
RUN FLAT TIRES by jlettie2
May 05, 2007 (4:32 pm)
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Hi
  I'm thinking of purchasing a Z-4,I have been told a few stories that if you get a flat the tire cannot be repaired and the rim may be damaged. The cost to replace the rim and tire could be over $700.00. The ride is stiff. The majority of people do not like run flats. The manufactures are not listening to customers. Has any one had similar experiences with these tires? Thanks JOE
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Run Flats by blacktalon
May 05, 2007 (11:03 pm)
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I didn't like the OEM Continental run-flats at all on my Z4 3.0si coupe, so I replaced them all with Michelin Pilot Sport PS2s, and I'm much happier.
 
The PS2s are much more responsive, have much better grip, and provide a much more comfortable ride, so it's win-win.
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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [kyfdx] by delfer
May 06, 2007 (9:16 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 03, 2007 2:58 am)

Thanks for thius kyfdx! The dealer is now just looking for my red leather interior with jet black exterior. Says he will need to get it from a San Diego dealer, although he says it's typically a hassle that not many dealers prefer to go through. How true?
 
the dealer tells me the last quote was $500 over invoice, and that the $560 difference between invoice ($47,820) and his quote of $48,380 is the MACO fee. I asked for a detailed breakdown -- sec deposit, cap cost, money factor, residual, etc, just so I could rest assured every dollar was accounted for. Any other things I should ask to cover all bases?
 
Lastly, are there any incentives at all with BMW on this car for the month that you know of? From the research I've been doing, $500 over invoice on this car does sound like a more than decent deal.
 
Thanks for the insight! I hope CarMan and WRobbins can chime in as well!
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Invoice and incentives on 2006 M Roadster..... by seekup
May 07, 2007 (4:36 pm)
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Hi. Where can I find information (invoice, factory to dealer incentive, money factor and residuals) on a 2006 M Roadster?
 
Also, any opinions on why there are so many 2006 cars left? Overpriced to start with? Gas mileage?
 
Thanks!
Seekup
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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [kyfdx] by delfer
May 09, 2007 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 03, 2007 2:58 am)

I am confused with my most recent quote ... according to my dealer, the following offer is $500 over invoice:
 
I can get you this car by end of May. Here is the exact lease structure sales price is $500 over invoice.
 
Model 0729 Z4 R 3.0si USD 42,400.00
   Color 668 Jet Black N/C
   Upholstery LASW Black Leather N/C
   Options ZPP Premium Package 2,750.00
                 399 Fully automatic soft top N/C
                 430 Auto-dimming mirrors N/C
                 459 Power front seats N/C
                 493 Storage package N/C
                 639 BMW Assist N/C
     ZSP Sport Package 1,200.00
                 224 Sport driving mode N/C
                 350 18" wheels w/performance tires N/C
                 704 Sport suspension N/C
     205 STEPTRONIC automatic trans. 1,275.00
     438 Wood trim N/C
     494 Heated front seats 500.00
     522 Xenon headlights 700.00
     609 Navigation system 1,800.00
              Net Total 50,625.00
              DESTINATION CHARGE 775.00
              GAS GUZZLER N/C
              Total Suggested Price 51,400.00
              Selling price $48,380
 
According to edmunds, 51,400 is MSRP but $47,320 is invoice, so if I'm not mistaken, $47,820 is $500 over invoice.
 
Where is his $560 coming from???
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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [delfer] by kyfdx HOST
May 10, 2007 (3:20 am)
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Replying to: delfer (May 09, 2007 6:52 pm)

Where is his $560 coming from???
 
MACO and training fee..
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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [kyfdx] by delfer
May 10, 2007 (8:41 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 10, 2007 3:20 am)

Ok, thanks ... that clarifies things. That said kyfdx, can you tell me what you compute the monthly payments for this quote for:
 
36 months, 15K miles, and 36 months 12K miles?
This is with zero down, and about $1500++ in drive-offs.
 
Thanks!
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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [delfer] by kyfdx HOST
May 11, 2007 (12:11 pm)
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Replying to: delfer (May 10, 2007 8:41 pm)

Rolling the $625 acq.fee into the selling price, the payment for 3yr/45K would be $543/mo. + tax..
 
Due at signing would be 1st payment, security deposit and title/registration fees (approx. $1200 + title/registration).
 
3yr/36K would drop the payment to $516/mo.+ tax.
 
Hope that helps,
kyfdx

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