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BMW Z4, Coupe, Convertible
#249 of 511 Re: Need Opinions on Z-4 Pricing [kyfdx]
Jul 02, 2005 (12:47 pm)
I just wanted to let you know that I did buy the 3.0L Z4 with SMG. Apparently, it was the only SMG available in the northeast. The car has all the usual schmalz (xenon, heated seats, sport and premium packages, BMW assist, metallic paint and hardtop prep). The dealer's cost according to Consumers' Union was $40,915 (includes $4,500 incentive). I paid $40,851. It was the last day of the month, and I suspect they might have been in a cash flow bind.
Here's some additional advice to those who live in the southeast. Dealers there are consistently high. One dealership in Roanoke, VA quoted me the MSRP: $48,500. Another in Winston-Salem, NC quoted $45,949 (included sports seats and driver's fee for bringing it up from Florida). I had precisely the same experience when buying two brand new Toyotas in 2003. The local VA dealer was $5,000 high on each car. I saved $10,000 by merely buying the cars in NJ! Competition is a consumer's best friend.
Again, thanks for your help and advice.
#250 of 511 Re: Need Opinions on Z-4 Pricing [k2xx]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Jul 02, 2005 (12:56 pm)
I'm sure you'll enjoy your new car.. The hard part is over... now you get to drive it..
#251 of 511 Need help on Used Z4 Pricing
Jul 06, 2005 (11:21 pm)
I am thinking of buying a used z4 and would like to get some opinions on pricing. The car is a 2003 three liter model with sport, premium, convenience packages, auto transmission, and xenon headlights. It has about 12k miles on it. Not a CPO but has remaining original warranty. Edmunds private party TMV price is about 32600. What would you pay for such a car?
kyfdx, please advise. Thank you all for you help.
#252 of 511 Re: Need help on Used Z4 Pricing [zedfour]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Jul 07, 2005 (6:35 am)
It is hard to price used Z4s, with all the dealer money they drop on new ones.. Sometimes the deals on the used ones are fair, but don't make much sense, when you consider what you can buy a new one for...
For example... a new '05 Z4 3.0 that has an MSRP of $48K, can be bought for under $41K... (I'm just guessing that would be a comparable price to the one you are looking at).
So... I'm going to direct you to this thread.. Real World Trade-In Values
List as much detail as you can about the car.... Follow the template at the bottom of the thread.. Be sure to tell them that you are considering buying the car from a private party, and give them your city/state.. It might take a couple of days, but at least you'll get a "real" number... based on what dealers are buying the car for at auction..
Then, you'll have to decide if the car is a good value, compared to what else you can buy for the low $30Ks...
#253 of 511 Re: Need help on Used Z4 Pricing [kyfdx]
Jul 07, 2005 (10:16 pm)
Thank you for your thoughts, kyfdx. I will post in the other thread you mentioned.
I priced the car using Edmunds TMV and Kelley Blue Book - there seems to be ~1k difference in price, so you are right in that a good value can be tricky to determine.
Jul 08, 2005 (4:59 pm)
I was wondering if kyfdx or someone else could tell me if
(1) its worth using these brokers that claim to get your car at wholesale prices? Have people got any good deals using their services? Any loopholes?
I am looking to buy a used Z4 (2.5 would do for me with atleast the convenience package) and am located in SF, CA. I see reasonably optioned 2003 Z4 2.5's with low miles (15-20K) going for between 26K-30K.
(2) Also, since 2003 was the first year of the model would it be recommended to go for the 2004 instead which probably has the tweaks to remove annoying features in the 2003 year model? The problem I see with the 2004 models as kyfdx pointed out earlier is that will all these rebates its worth shelling out 4K more for a brand new car. Any opinions?
Thanks in advance for your advice.
#255 of 511 New 2005 Z4, is this a good price?
Jul 14, 2005 (10:41 am)
Was just checking out a Merlo 2.5 Z4 with Premium, automatic and tan leather, wood trim and tan top. Told the GM (Braman at West Palm Beach) that I wanted the $2500 dealer incentive and that I'd pay $1000 over invoice. He said that when I was ready to buy, he'd do it (had to get to another appointment and couldn't wait for the final pricing). So, a this point although I don't know how much they they will cost out the invoice, Edmund's calculations bring me to an invoice of approximately $37,685, and I figure that the car should cost about $36,185 (37,685-2500+1000) before taxes. Is this a good buying price? As the GM took my offer rather quickly, I'm beginning to think that I could have done better (ie, offered less than $1000 over invoice after the $2500). What do you think?
#256 of 511 Re: New 2005 Z4, is this a good price? [flycaster]
Jul 14, 2005 (6:00 pm)
I think the price is good.
But why are you skipping the sports package on an auto 2.5.
I own a 3.0 automatic so my wife can also drive it. Without the sports button it lacks a little umph. (IMHO)
Jul 15, 2005 (10:57 am)
Although the SP would be nice, I'm passing on as a matter saving $. The SP is no great deal in the 2.5. However, with the 3.0 I think one does see a difference. I just might wait for the 2006's with the 215hp output of the 2.5.
#258 of 511 Re: No need for SP [flycaster]
Jul 15, 2005 (2:57 pm)
I think the SP is more improtant in the 2.5; put thats a personal choice.
I have heard but can not confirm that only the 3.0 2006 will get the new engine. The 2006 2.5 will get the same engine as the 2005.
Does anyone have any info on this?