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#174 of 493
ED 2006 325i ...I just got a deal by buulu
Apr 30, 2005 (6:09 pm)
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2006 325! $1400 + ED invoice (including options)!
Titanium Silver
SP
Heated Seats
Power Seats
Black leatherette
The dealer is the most friendliest (yet professional) i've seen so far - BMW of Eugene.
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Re: ED 2006 325i ...I just got a deal [buulu] by kyfdx HOST
May 01, 2005 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: buulu (Apr 30, 2005 6:09 pm)

Maybe you could post this in the 3-series forum?
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dealing on '04s by lenunbiased
May 09, 2005 (11:22 pm)
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My local dealer has a bunch of 04 3.0s on the lot with signs on them offering them at 9k-10k below MSRP -- which given their configurations appears to be right at invoice less the $5500 (for $1000 profit net of incentive). For instance, they've got an 04 3.0 with performance, auto, heated seats & xenon fin black or silver or $37,900.
 
Two questions:
 
1. How much lower do you suppose the dealer might go given his large inventory?
 
2. What have posters here meant when they talked about the '04s being "punched" and would that have any impact on me, e.g., starting the warranty clock early, etc.?
 
Thx
Len
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Re: dealing on '04s [lenunbiased] by kyfdx HOST
May 10, 2005 (7:03 am)
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Replying to: lenunbiased (May 09, 2005 11:22 pm)

1) The dealer may want $1000 profit on an '04, but I wouldn't make it my problem... Their fault for not moving the cars.. I wouldn't pay more than invoice minus $6500, and even at that, I'm not sure it is worth it.. There is a $4500 incentive on the '05.. So, at $1000 over, you'd only be paying $2K more for a new '05..
 
2) I'm not certain about the warranty issue.. But, if the clock has been running, that would make the '04 deal worse...
 
3) I don't have any inside info on what a dealer might take for the '04, or even if they would consider a loss on it.. My target price would be invoice minus $6500 incentive minus another $1000 ($2K under their asking price).. But, the fact that they've held onto them this long, shows they may not be that flexible...
 
I find that demos, service loaners, leftovers... rarely sell for enough discount to make it worth it... I'd be aggressively low with my offer, and walk away if they can't do it..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: dealing on '04s [kyfdx] by z4_2k4
May 10, 2005 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 10, 2005 7:03 am)

Ok, looking to buy an '04 Z4 2.5i. Whats a good price? Here are 2 cars I found
 
2004 z4 2.5i - $33,2995
400miles
Red-Tan Leather
Automatic
6yr / 100,000 maintenance
Heated seats, xeon, premium sound, wood trim, Convenience Package
 
or
 
2004 Z4 2.5i - $32,495 - CPO
11,500miles
Automatic
Silver - black leather, Convenience Package, Sport Package
Multi-function Steering Wheel, Foglights, Premium Hi-fi System
Premium Package, Heated Front Seats, Xenon Headlights
 
How low should I go?
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Re: Gotta know the numbers [peacefield1] by fundir
May 15, 2005 (3:34 pm)
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Replying to: peacefield1 (Apr 01, 2005 8:00 am)

I am looking at 05 z4 3.0 deluxe. $50,100. MSRP. Invoice price is$46,267.
Incentive at this dealership is $5000. Salesman says if I buy this car I pay
MSRP minus $5000 incentive = $45,100. That is $1,167 below invoice price.
But you say you paid $10,500 less than MSRP on your car.
I would be paying $5000 less on my car. The car you got at MSRP $48,500 had
an invoice of approx. $44,700. And you paid $38,000. That would be $6,700 under
invoice price. How did that ever happen. and what dealership did you get this done at. If I order one, salesman said it cost me MSRP if the incentives are gone when it comes in, which will be June. Do I need to find another dealer or just walk away now? Please reply, need help fast. May decide this week. Anyone can respond to this. My salesman says BMW's are normally sold at MSRP. Is he right or wrong?
#180 of 493
Re: Gotta know the numbers [fundir] by kyfdx HOST
May 15, 2005 (8:46 pm)
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Replying to: fundir (May 15, 2005 3:34 pm)

1) The BMW-to-dealer incentive on the '05 Z4 is $4500..
 
2) If they sell it to you for $5100 off MSRP, you are only getting an effective discount of $600 from MSRP.
 
3) "My salesman says BMW's are normally sold at MSRP. Is he right or wrong?" hahahahahahaha... he is a real joker
 
Take their invoice $46,267.. add $1000 profit, then subtract the $4500 incentive.. That gives you $42,767.. I would offer $42,500... and hope to take it home for $43K at the most..
 
They don't have $4500 incentives for no reason... they aren't selling well..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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2005 Z4 lease by lizc3
May 16, 2005 (9:45 pm)
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I understand that there is a $2500 dealer incentive on the 2.5 Z4. Does the dealer still get this incentive if the car is leased? Does anyone know how long this incentive goes for?
 
There is also a lease deal for $359/month with $3259 down for 36 months at 10,000 miles. It is good till May 31, 2005. How can I negotiate a good sale price and then take advantage of the lease incentive?
 
Thanks,
Liz
#182 of 493
Re: 2005 Z4 lease [lizc3] by kyfdx HOST
May 17, 2005 (7:57 am)
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Replying to: lizc3 (May 16, 2005 9:45 pm)

The incentive is compatible with the BMWFS lease rates, so the dealer gets it whether you lease or buy..
 
The advertised lease deals for BMWs almost always assume a dealer discount of $1000 from MSRP, in addition to any incentives... But, that lease price is for a specific car with few options.... There is always a little extra room to negotiate lower..
 
Use your knowledge of the $2500 incentive to negotiate a low sale price.. then insist on the dealer using the base rate money factor and acquisition fee.. That will get you a good lease price..
 
regards,
kyfdx
#183 of 493
pricing by miata007
May 17, 2005 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 17, 2005 7:57 am)

If any guys are not sure about how much to pay for a car, go to several dealers and lowball them. Salesman are full of lies trying to make an extra commision on people who are too lazy or not capable of during research. Just be sure to walk when they are wasting your time at the dealership usually when they try to wear you out. Treat the car buying process a fun one by taking your time and shop around between dealers/brands/models. There are plenty of supplies out there.
 
007

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