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BMW 7-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: FINISHED THE DEAL [rvd72] by emauro
Sep 20, 2006 (1:01 pm)
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Replying to: rvd72 (Sep 19, 2006 11:48 am)

located in florida. just drove the car on a 1200 mile road trip. Fantastic on the highway
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Re: just bought a 2004 745 li [bigmoe1] by rohan25
Sep 22, 2006 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: bigmoe1 (Sep 14, 2006 2:35 am)

I recently bought a Late 2003 (Aug 2003 in service) 745i blk/blk sport package with 21K miles (was a corporate executive car) for $40K.
 
Is this a good deal?
 
Thanks
#91 of 118
Re: just bought a 2004 745 li [rohan25] by bigmoe1
Sep 22, 2006 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: rohan25 (Sep 22, 2006 8:24 am)

I was actually seeing similiar deals, instead i opted for the 04 li, even though the mileage was higher, figured i'd rather have an 04 instead of an 03 for the same price...but your deal sounds fine to me. Enjoy!
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my deal by rvd72
Sep 27, 2006 (4:15 pm)
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this is the deal i have so far. is there any more room to go down?
 
2006 750i (new)
sport
convenience
comfort access
premium sound
luxury seating
rear shades
hd radio
satellite radio
 
residual 60%
3 yr / 36k miles
 
msrp: $82790
cap cost: $77760 (edmunds says invoice is $75585)
 
i am a first time leaser.
 
MF is .00215 but i will add 7 refundable security deposits ($7700) to bring the MF down to .00166
monthly: $1074 (including tax)
 
drive off would be $10045
refundable security would be $7700
 
i don't think there is much room in the MF but maybe the price?
 
RVD.
#93 of 118
my deal by emauro
Oct 01, 2006 (6:12 am)
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margin over invoice is 2.8% good
might want to consider putting down one deposit of 1100.00
mf would be .00200
payment would be 1107 including tax. don't know your zip using 7% tax.
Take the 7700.00 buy an i bond yielding 6.75 % you would be ahead $200.00 as opposed to giving it to bmw.
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Re: BEST PRICE AFTER EXTENSIVE RESEARCH [jvpr] by blckislandguy
Oct 22, 2006 (6:13 pm)
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Replying to: jvpr (Mar 21, 2006 12:10 pm)

Congrats on not having one late payment (like most adults) on your curent car, but your view of the world is nuts and is going to impoverish you. Pay off the Jeep, keep it, attack the 100K loans, build equity in something, and forget about BMWs that you can't afford to rent (let alone buy).
 
Starting out like this, you're going wind up like half the MDs/JDs in America: buried up to their eyeballs in debt at 60, renting luxury cars on a 36 month treadmill that they can't get off of, and unable to enjoy life or contemplate retirement.
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2007 750i Lease, CA by ajgolf
Dec 22, 2006 (4:58 pm)
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Looking at a '07 750i with the following features
Sport Package
Luxury Seating
Comfort Access
Premium Sound
Convenience Package
High Definition radio
Satellite Radio
 
MSRP is $85,790
"wholesale" is $79,440
 
The "wholesale price" contains 2 items I am unfamiliar with (1) MACO - $380 and (2) Training Service Fee $180 - are these bogus?
 
Also the Lease quote is $1500 over "wholesale" = $80,940 + $870 aquistion fee (which seems $245 too high based on the input I have seen on this forum that the acutal fee is $625) bringing the Adjusted Cap Cost to $81,810.
 
Money Factor seems in line at .0020 with security deposit and .00215 without. 58% residual with 15,000 miles on a 36 month lease, also appears fair.
 
My concern is the $850 in "extra fees" and if the "whlesale price" seems fair. I'm I being taken and ??
Thanks for the input.
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Re: 2007 750i Lease, CA [ajgolf] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 22, 2006 (7:47 pm)
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Replying to: ajgolf (Dec 22, 2006 4:58 pm)

1) Training fee and MACO are legitimate invoice charges.. The training fee is on every US BMW.. MACO is an advertising fee that varies by region/metro area.. Some dealers don't have it.. but that is rare.
 
2) I'm guessing the $870 includes $825 for acquisition fee and $45 for the document fee (California, right?). The acquisition fee is marked up the maximum $200 allowed by BMWFS (extra profit for the dealer).
 
3) With MACO, your "wholesale" price seems pretty close.. I didn't spec it out exactly, but it is definitely in the right range ($200 +/-)
 
.0020 is the base money factor... Be sure to make the security deposit... the MF bump is a bad deal..
 
Taking everything into account... if you get the base MF, then the deal is under $2K over "cost".. Not bad for an $85K car..
 
Did they quote you a payment? You'll want to see if the payment and the upfront money match all of the other numbers...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: 2007 750i Lease, CA [kyfdx] by ajgolf
Dec 23, 2006 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 22, 2006 7:47 pm)

Thanks for the info kyfdx, I appreciate it.
 
To answer your Qs - the payment with $3,094 drive off (which includes a $1250 security deposit) is $1,239.
 
Without the security drive off is $1,865 ($1229 less, not sure how that worked??) and payment is $1,261
 
This is $22 per month more x 36 month = $792 over life of the lease. By my calculations if I do NOT put down the deposit I am ahead $437 -- $1228 (less drive off)- $792 (increased payment). So why would I want to put the security deposit down as you indicted?
 
Thanks again,
ajgolf

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