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BMW 7-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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#69 of 118
2006 750li lease by emauro
Aug 12, 2006 (10:14 am)
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I'm looking at an msrp of 84390 36 mths 10k residual 61%
dealer is trying to get 1261 a month, with a money factor of .00240. My calculation shows the dealer making about 6% over invoice.
Any comments on the money factor and the margin
also is the 1300 a month security deposit a dealer option?
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Re: 2006 750li lease [emauro] by kyfdx HOST
Aug 13, 2006 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: emauro (Aug 12, 2006 10:14 am)

From my numbers, I'd say the dealer is making a lot more than that...
 
Do you know the selling price? What is the amount due at signing? Does the monthly payment include tax?
 
You can have the security deposit waived, but it will result in an increase in the money factor... It is a better deal to make the deposit..
 
I've got other comments, but I'll wait for your answers..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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bmw 750Li Lease by emauro
Aug 13, 2006 (10:44 am)
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heres the latest deal I got yesterday
msrp 84390 cap cost 80290 includes 625 in acqusition fees
residual 61% 10k 36 mth
factor .0022928
monthly including tax $1179.63
start ups First month plus registration $1445.00
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Re: bmw 750Li Lease [emauro] by kyfdx HOST
Aug 13, 2006 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: emauro (Aug 13, 2006 10:44 am)

That is a lot better.. they are still bumping up the money factor for extra profit..
 
If they used the base factor, and you made a security deposit, then the payment would be about $1064/mo.+tax..
 
Don't know your tax rate, but that is what I would be shoooting for... Probably $2500-$2600 upfront, of which $1150 would be a refundable security deposit.
 
Your are close to that, though... not bad..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: bmw 750Li Lease [kyfdx] by emauro
Aug 13, 2006 (11:02 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Aug 13, 2006 10:55 am)

tax rate is 7%
what is the base factor .00200?
Can you tell me the relationship between the security deposit and the factor.
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Re: bmw 750Li Lease [emauro] by kyfdx HOST
Aug 13, 2006 (8:14 pm)
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Replying to: emauro (Aug 13, 2006 11:02 am)

BMWFS sets the money factor... The base money factor (aka "buy rate") is .0020...
 
BMWFS allows the dealer to mark-up the money factor for extra profit.. The maximum mark-up is .0004, resulting in a total money factor of .0024..
 
If you are a first time BMW lessee, you must make a security deposit, or you may have it waived for an extra .00015 bump in the money factor..
 
So... base MF with a security deposit is .0020..
Base MF w/o security deposit is .00215
 
Maximum MF w/security deposit is .0024
Maximum FM w/o security deposit is .00255
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Re: bmw 750Li Lease [kyfdx] by emauro
Aug 14, 2006 (4:15 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Aug 13, 2006 8:14 pm)

Thanks for the info
I am a first time bmw lessee.
The current deal calls for no security deposit.
What amount of security buys the rate down .00015.
also who sets the security.
Is it also true BMWFS is a pass/ fail and not necessarily tied to a beacon score?
 
Regards,
ed
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Re: bmw 750Li Lease [emauro] by kyfdx HOST
Aug 14, 2006 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: emauro (Aug 14, 2006 4:15 am)

The security deposit is your payment, rounded up to the next $50 increment.. The leasing company controls this..
 
BMWFS has always been pass/fail in the past, but I read that they are going to start tiered rate structures.. not sure when, though...
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Re: bmw 750Li Lease [kyfdx] by emauro
Aug 16, 2006 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Aug 14, 2006 7:51 am)

heh kyfdx
what do you think of this deal
msrp 86590
monthly $1219.33 including tax
factor.00200
acquisition 625.00 capitalized
36 mths
12k
60% resid
starts first ,security, $200.00 registration($2669.33)
my calculation the dealer is making 4.92% margin over invoice $78745.00
 
Do you think theirs any more room?.
 
Ed
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Re: bmw 750Li Lease [emauro] by kyfdx HOST
Aug 16, 2006 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: emauro (Aug 16, 2006 4:28 pm)

I get the same numbers as you, I think...
 
A selling price of around $82,600
 
That's about half-way between invoice and MSRP..
 
Is that a good deal? No idea, really... We don't see enough sales of 7-series here to get a good feel for the market.... That is around $3850 over invoice... sounds like a lot, but I doubt that BMW dealers are willing to take skinny deals on $85K cars...
 
Base money factor and acquisition fee are good... Doesn't look like any extra padding in there..
 
The lease program is pretty decent right now for an '06 model at the end of the year... That is a really strong residual, and likely much higher than real-world depreciation... I'd certainly take this lease deal before I would purchase the car... Even with $43K in payments over the next three years, you'll come out ahead over buying it..
 
Good luck!
kyfdx

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