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BMW 5 Series, BMW, Diesel, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Sedan
#50 of 59 Re: 535d in the United States [drhasslefree]
May 24, 2006 (5:37 pm)
Diesel BMWs will be back in the USA in 2008. They were last sold here around 1985/6 as a 525td and used ones are sold on eBay for about $4k -- so they really kept their value.
#51 of 59 Re: 535d in the United States [tdinick]
May 24, 2006 (9:19 pm)
Do you have more info tdnick?
Will it be the suv's ( boo ) or, perhaps a 535d with 6-speed, active roll stabilization, etc ( yay! ).
#52 of 59 BMW diesel info
Nov 26, 2007 (4:41 am)
I'm currently stationed in Italy. While here, I can get a BMW 3d or 5d series at diplomatic pricing (good but still expensive). The catch is the cost is in euros, which are killing us American's over here.
My question is if I buy a 2008 535id to bring home, does anyone know about what would have to be done and cost to convert to US specs? Also, will the diesel engine set up for over here need a conversion or additives to run on US diesel fuel?
I went to Oktoberfest in Munich in Sep and sat with a guy in R&D at BMW. I also contacted the USA Marketing rep while visiting the plant. Nothing comfirmed and very unofficial, but was "told" that the current plan was to market the X5 SUV as a diesel in the US for the 2009 model and if all went well, follow with the 3 or 5 or both series for 2010 models. So looks like it is still some time away unfortunately.
Should I bring home a European conversion or not? Its gonna cost me. What would the resale look like if I decided to sell it and get a 2010 when they come to the USA?
I need to make a decision before the end of this year, so the expertise on this forum will help a lot.
#53 of 59 Re: BMW diesel info [caheel]
Nov 26, 2007 (4:57 am)
I'm thinking that you won't be able to legally license a 535d for love nor money as there is probably no way to convert one to operate as cleanly as would be required to meet federal emmissions standards. Your best bet would be to either buy a gasser at diplomatic prices or wait until the BMW diesels are available on our side of the pond.
#54 of 59 BMW 535id
Nov 26, 2007 (5:15 am)
Thanks. Was wondering if anyone was reading this board since the post prior to mine was a year old.
Hoping you're wrong but I really don't know. I'm definitely more interested in a diesel than a hybrid and need some good economy since I will be returning to southern California and even a normal commute is 30 miles each way.
Why don't you think I could convert it? Someone told me they have to replace the headlights, tail lights, windshield? and maybe a few other items.
Boy, US market is missing out. This heavy, safe, beautiful car can get about 55mpg on the highway.
#55 of 59 Re: BMW 535id [caheel]
Nov 26, 2007 (5:57 am)
Because California HATES diesels. Why? Emissions, period, full stop, the end. To say that it would be near impossible to get a 535d licensed in the non-CARB states would be an understatement, to get it licensed in California would most likely require divine intervention, and the last time I checked, the deities weren't acting on the prayers of American diesel lovers.
#56 of 59 BMW 535id
Nov 26, 2007 (6:12 am)
How about if I bring in as a used car since I'll own it over here for at least 8-9 months?
How do others get VW TDIs and MB diesels registered there?
#57 of 59 Re: BMW 535id [caheel]
Nov 26, 2007 (6:28 am)
Nope, not going to work either. In the case of the VW and Mercedes-Benz diesels, they meet the pollution requirements as set forth by the EPA. In fact, technically the Mercedes-Benz meets the CARB requirements as well, however, California pulled a fast one at the last minute and changed the rules regarding the Blue-Tec urea canister (which has to be refilled every 7,500 miles or so). Now the only way to legally license these cars in California is to wait until the car has over ~7,500 miles on the odometer.
That said, since the BMW diesels don't even meet the U.S. EPA emissions standards, you won't even be able to legally get the car in the country much less to California. As I said before, you need to wait for BMW to release a U.S. spec diesel, and that probably won't happen until 2009 or 2010.
#58 of 59 Re: BMW 535id [caheel]
Nov 28, 2007 (8:21 pm)
The car has to be USA certified for both safety and emissions. I still remember Bill Gates with his $900,000 Porsche impounded because it was not crash tested to US standards. I think you are looking at a giant hassle that you will lose. Get a Mercedes E320CDI that is US approved and with 7500 miles you can register it in CA. I know of several people that took European delivery on a Mercedes diesel. It has to be a legal US vehicle. So far BMW has not brought any diesels to the US. An X5 diesel would be to my liking for sure.
#59 of 59 Re: BMW 535id [caheel]
Dec 28, 2007 (6:59 am)
I've read that BMW may unveil the US-market 330d at NAIAS in January 2008. It will be rated at 228 bhp, but the fuel efficiency will be around 30-35% better than the 328i model. That 3.0-liter turbodiesel engine may make its way into the 5-Series sedan and possibly the next-generation X3 due about 18 months from now.