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#3392 of 7872 Re: on our 2nd sonata, maybe our last [harrychezt]
Dec 21, 2005 (10:17 pm)
How about 06 Sonata? If you still have 04 Sonata, you can get GLS v6 for $16,000 after owner's rebate. It will be way more cheaper than Japanese or domestic cars that have less features. You also have to consider that any car with 100,000 miles on it eventually need some fix. Here are some examples from my cars and my family's .... wife's 1994 Accord needed new steering pump, thermostat, and new stereo about 41,000 miles( Right after warranty ran out). 1992 Collola had broken piston rod at 67,000 miles (My sister ended up trade in for 1997 Camry after 2 times repair, still had problems). My 1988 Integra needed new starter at 110,000 miles. Wire broke off that goes through hatch back door cause no defrost, no wiper, and no center brake light ( Have not fixed yet). Have changed driver's side seat belt 3 times (Dealership wanted $299 for new one, I had to get it myself at You-Pull-It). Now Integra has 150,000 miles on it. 2 months ago I had to spent $1,200 for stop oil leaks from 4 places, seized caliper, timing belt, and water pump. My Integra is not even worth for $1,200. I still fixed it because I want to have 3rd car just for the incase. MPG? My wife's MDX supposed to get 17-23 MPG, I see 16 MPG best with city and mainly HWY driving....These are some of defects I can remember. There were many more little problems too. If you think you will not have problems on other brand name cars, it's mistake. At least Hyundai gives you longer warranty.
#3393 of 7872 Re: As I just posted somewhere else [tb88]-I guess I'm lucky!
Dec 22, 2005 (7:21 am)
My dealership (in south Austin, Tx) does oil changes for 19.95 with a coupon that can be printed from their web site. This includes a wash job and vacuuming the interior. They also have a really excellent waiting area. I have a neighbor that bought from another dealership that says he is also very satisfied with his service.
#3394 of 7872 Re: As I just posted somewhere else [zen2]Surveys
Dec 22, 2005 (7:27 am)
I forgot to mention that I just received a survey from Hyundai regarding my last oil change visit, as I have for everytime I have visited there. It usually takes about 3 weeks from the visit.
#3397 of 7872 Re: Another outrageous Expensive Service! [tb88]
Dec 22, 2005 (11:02 am)
I had replaced the timing belt on our 2000 Elantra at a Hyundai dealer, the old belt could have passed for a new one..I asked to see the old part. This at over 80K miles(it is scheduled for repacement 60K). It cost about $400.00 and I considered it the cost of ownership. By no means is Hyundai the only vehicle with a belt, our 95 Stratus V-6 also has a belt and it cost more to replace than the Hyundai. Service is expensive at $70 or more per hour anywhere. I wonder, why do you consider the poster "hyundaiguy1" a moron. Am I also a moron because I am realistic about the costs of servicing modern vehicles...I think not?! You have a viable alternative to vehicle repair costs...walk.
#3398 of 7872 Re: Another outrageous Expensive Service! [targettuning]
Dec 22, 2005 (11:11 am)
Our Elantra had ours changed along with the other belts and our dealer charged about $400 total. We were at 125k on the timing belt and it looked like it could go for some time more.
#3399 of 7872 Re: Another outrageous Expensive Service! [bhmr59]
Dec 22, 2005 (12:45 pm)
"However I read somewhere that the chain is not maintenance free. Don't recall the details, but it needs to be checked and possibly serviced at some point (more than 60K miles)."
Your take is generally correct. Timing chains do stretch with extended use, though the engines are equipped with automatic tensioners to take up the slack - up to a point. (Timing belt-equipped engines also have auto-tensioners.) Once the timing chain has stretched beyond the ability of the automatic tensioner to compensate, the chain is subject to flipping off a sprocket. At any engine speed, the fun begins, but quickly accelerates to disaster status at higher engine sppeds. The resulting damage from a flailing chain beating up any and everything it comes in contact with can be DEVE$TATING. I'm neutral in this matter. Timing chains are probably reliable longer than belts, but if and when they do let go, the results can include broken pistons and valves in "interference" engines (just as with broken timing belts) plus extensive damage to the engine front cover or, worse, even the engine block itself. (Imagine being told you need a new engine block and might as well include everything else at 100,000+ miles while we're at it...) The price of a replacement timing belt is less than that of a replacement timing chain, but the difference is outweighed by the labor charges involved in changing either part out. Timing belts are inherently quieter, though additional sound insulation will dampen chain noise. Unlike timing chains, timing belts require no lubrication stream. In short, I don't believe there's a clear winner, here. Neither approach to camshaft drive is a deal buster, and the job would frankly be better served by quiet spiral-cut gears. Timing belts will probably improve in durability/longevity as new chord materials and elastomeric compounds are developed. (I don't doubt the liklihood that improved metallurgy will result in similar improvements in timing chain durability/reliability either. I can even believe the possibility of using advanced, temperature-stable polymers to make very quiet, lube-free, and durable timing chains in the not-so-distant future.)
#3400 of 7872 Re: on our 2nd sonata, maybe our last [kwonc71]
Dec 22, 2005 (1:10 pm)
"How about 06 Sonata?"
I believe harrychezt indicated in his post that he and his wife are somewhat put off by what they feel is the new Sonata's uninspired, "been-done-before" prior generation generic-Japanese exterior and interior styling. To a large extent, I agree with him. The previous generation Sonata did have a hint of continental flavor that clearly set it apart from its Japanese rivals.
#3401 of 7872 Re: on our 2nd sonata, maybe our last [haefr]
Dec 22, 2005 (1:13 pm)
I will admit that the previous generation Sonata looks better than the current one especially the front end. But its not enough for me to turn me away from it.