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Replying to: robertsmx (Nov 15, 2004 7:31 pm) The RDX would have to use the same strategy, only in reverse. It will have to leave the utilitarian appeal to the Pilot, Highlander and others of that ilk, but instead offer X3-like performance, with above-average luxury, at a cut-rate price. It's a tall order. Maybe too tall? But they should be able to do it by raiding the parts bins of Honda's other models -- platform from the CR-V, the 4WD system from the MDX, and how about the 3.0 V6 from the previous generation Accord (a real jewel of a motor, IMO).
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"but instead offer X3-like performance, with above-average luxury, at a cut-rate price" bodble2, the market may be receptive to such a vehicle. Although maybe not for the previous generation 3.0 V6 Accord engine. The newest engines or gizmos are among the main causes of excitement for new vehicle buyers.
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Replying to: bodble2 (Nov 16, 2004 1:09 pm) I made a point about MDX being comparable to X5, and RDX should be comparable to X3. While MDX and X5 compete in $36-45K price class, this is a class that is also served by some utilitarian behemoths. There is plenty of outside competition to be had, and MDX has held its own for 4-5 years. BMW X3 and Honda CR-V are virtually identical in size, at least on paper (pretty much like MDX and X5, run a compare on Edmunds, and you should see it like I did). There is a market for more utilitarian SUVs and not unlike the higher price class where MDX and X5 reside. What really is a tall-order, IMO, is the assumption that RDX will have to be as cheap as loaded CR-V. In fact, Ford Escape Limited treads into $28K price class! Acura RDX is likely to be placed in $30-35K price class. For the added premium, it is likely to deliver a lot more than CR-V can. How it fares against BMW X3, we shall see about that, but my bet would be that the story wouldn’t be much different between X3 and RDX than it is between MDX and X5.
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 16, 2004 1:44 pm)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Nov 16, 2004 3:25 pm) For use in Accord, the engine is in slightly detuned form. For Acura, things can change. Just look at the difference between the 3.5/V6 used in MDX and the same used in Odyssey/Pilot. The MDX unit is tuned for stronger low/mid-range and doesn't give up at the top end either. If Honda follows the same formula on its smaller displacement version (the 3.0, the 3.2 and the 3.5 are essentially identical in architecture), 230 HP  5800 rpm, 220-225 lb.-ft 3500 rpm would be possible. This is the reason I quoted that 225 HP variant of the 3.0 would be just fine for RDX, especially if the curb weight can be kept in check (hopefully no more than 3800 lb).
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Replying to: robertsmx (Nov 16, 2004 1:45 pm) |
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Replying to: robertsmx (Nov 16, 2004 3:32 pm)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Nov 16, 2004 3:42 pm) J30A shares its architecture with J32A (TL) and J35A (Odyssey, Pilot, MDX and RL). Until now, the RL used C35A which was based off the original "C25A" (later became C27A and eventually destined to be put in 1995-1997 Accord before it was put to rest).
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Replying to: robertsmx (Nov 16, 2004 3:51 pm) 
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| ....It appears that the Acura RDX small SUV (note that this vehicle will be smaller than the MDX SUV!) will be derived from the Honda FR-V/Edix "tall wagon" that just went on sale in Europe and Japan recently. Think of it as an FR-V/Edix with a different nose, different tailgate design, NO staggered seating for the front passengers (only two in front), and likely a derivative of the K24 i-VTEC engine used on the TSX sedan. | |
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