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I'm not sure if a "deluxe CR-V" would sell as well in the US, since they seem to mostly have appetite only for all things big. The problem with moving the RDX to far upmarket is that I'm not sure if the Acura brand can support it. Acura is not really regarded as an upper-echelon brand -- not mentioned in the same breath of MB, BMW, Audi, or even Lexus. You may hear comments such as "why would I pay that much for an Acura". That's the reason why I think the sales prospect of the new RL, with MSRP of almost $70K, is pretty dicey.
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I’m hoping that Acura RDX will be Honda’s first hybrid-only SUV with the more powerful version of IMA, along the lines that Acura RDX demonstrated couple of years ago. 220-240 HP in AWD format would be enough. If not hybrid, Acura should use (at least) a 3.0-liter version of the MDX 3.5 delivering 225 HP/220 lb.-ft with VTM-4. For anything less, CR-V works just fine. Dimensions: 5-seat (compact SUV) Price Class: $30K-35K |
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Replying to: bodble2 (Nov 15, 2004 2:00 pm) |
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"The problem with moving the RDX to far upmarket is that I'm not sure if the Acura brand can support it. " I am talking about a cheaper CRV based Acura not a premium priced Porsche Cayenne beater. "since they seem to mostly have appetite only for all things big." I dont know about that? Americans love the Prius and Mini as much as we Canadians love small vehicles. The key is to develop a vehicle that has exciting technology ,performance, handling and utility. Candadians and Americans would stand united in their quest to own such a vehicle as a hybrid RDX.
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 15, 2004 3:03 pm)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Nov 15, 2004 6:20 pm) I couldn't disagree. There are plenty of intelligent buyers out there, more so in this price class ($30K-40K) than above it. X5 goes against MDX by the same logic that X3 would against RDX. What do you think about the former? MDX has hit its targeted market extremely well. I expect the same from RDX.
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Replying to: bodble2 (Nov 15, 2004 6:20 pm) But I have two reservations about the above statement. The key reason for the MDX's success, especailly during its intro years is its differentiation. Among premium German/Japanese SUVs it was the only one that had passenger volume for more than five. For larger familes, the MDX was a more exciting alternative than a minivan. Ofcourse today the competition is changing with the offerings from Volvo and the soon to be Subaru B9X. So what would be the key differentiator for an RDX vs. X3. Price! Unfortuanately at about CDN 39k there is so much competition out there: Honda Pilot and Toyota Highlander(I was told by a Toyota sales rep that the hybrid version may sell for about CDN$40k) My second reservation about the possible success of a non-hybrid RDX is that the X3 is selling below BMW expectations. For many months I have seen a lot of compelling dealership clearance sales for the BMW x3. I have a friend who got a fantastic deal on his x3 3.0 . For BMW, it is pretty sad when you can get good deals on vehicles that were introduced just months ago(sad for BMW not the customer). I tried getting a good deal on my 99 BMW 323 shortly after its introwith little success. |
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Replying to: bodble2 (Nov 15, 2004 2:00 pm) However, you're only about $20,000 off of the price of the RL. The MSRP of the 2005 Acura RL is $49,470 including destination. I do not believe the RL will have any impact on the RDX.
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Replying to: chico1454 (Nov 16, 2004 8:11 am) 70k Canadian dollars. We Canucks do not get paid in Greenbacks. Regarding Canadian pricing--if the RL was priced to today's CDN-USFX rate of 0.83 an RL would be priced as (49,470/.83)=59,600. In other words we Canadians are being ripped off compared to Americans. We have to pay 70kCdn$ for a car that would cost 59kCdn$ in today's exchange rate. On top of that Canadians pay 15% total sales tax. I am sure there is not a single State down south that has such a hefty sales tax. |
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Maybe my expectations for an affordable hybrid RDX are a bit too high. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6480056/site/newsweek/ On the website above, the NEwsweek article writes that the RX400h will sell for 52K US$. This is one helluva premium price over the non-hybrid version. Ofcourse Lexus will add luxuries to thee RX400h,but still the price for me is a bit steep. If future high performance hybrids turn out to be this expensive then I will re-evaluate my alernatives. Save fuel--buy a Prius or a Jetta TDI. High performance SUV---buy non hybrid versions.
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