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#159 of 165 Energy Bill Passes by pf_flyer HOST Dec 19, 2007 (6:21 am)
The energy bill passed the house and has been sent on to be signed. As always, the Devil In The Details factor remains. Replies to this message: jeffyscott (Dec 22, 2007 5:05 am)
#160 of 165 Sacrifice stinks sometimes! lol by blkbr0tha Dec 21, 2007 (9:12 am)
From all of the articles I have read on Ethanol- A LOT.. things appear to be healthy for the environment. Especially when using the cellulosic method. Unlike corn ethanol- there are plenty of renewable resources such as switchgrass, paper sludge, and other biomasses. However, I think there are some main questions to ask about the legislation in the long term - not just for our environment but for our Economic Health as consumers. What about vehicle prices? They are sure to sky rocket What about the price of Ethanol? (it is already close to the current price of gas) What about the BIG OLI companies? (Do you really think they are going to let good ole Mr Clampett take over?   Yes, there are benefits to the plan- but at the cost of WHOM? Sacrifice is a mutha... Replies to this message: gagrice (Dec 21, 2007 5:33 pm)
#161 of 165 Re: Sacrifice stinks sometimes! lol [blkbr0tha] by gagrice Dec 21, 2007 (5:33 pm)
Replying to: blkbr0tha (Dec 21, 2007 9:12 am) Yes, there are benefits to the plan- but at the cost of WHOM?   It looks to me like you already know the answer to that question. WE are going to pay for any energy plan the FEDS concoct. And pay dearly.
#162 of 165 Re: Energy Bill Passes [pf_flyer] by jeffyscott Dec 22, 2007 (5:05 am)
Replying to: pf_flyer (Dec 19, 2007 6:21 am) The question I have about corn ethanol subsidies is - are the subsidies helping or hindering the development of cellulosic ethanol?   I could see it helping in that a market and distrubution system will, perhaps, be deveoped, but I could also see it hindering as the subsidies make taking the safe path of producing corn ethanol profitable, thus reducing the incentive to take the risk of investing in development of cellulosic.
#164 of 165 GREEN ALTERNATIVE FUELS by galvang May 29, 2008 (9:00 pm)
Some very interesting recent news regarding new fuels that are soon to be introduced. Now I do not know what type of volume they will produce however it is a good start.   The first starts with the "First Cellulosic Ethanol Demonstration-Scale Plant". Perfect for those anti-corn ethanol haters.   http://ir.verenium.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=81345&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1151140&highl- - ight=   Second is 91 octane gasoline made from algae. They can produce it at $1.35 a gallon. Talk about green.   http://www.sapphireenergy.com/mediacenter/press_release/1   Again all these anouncements are a good start but in order for them to make a significant contribution to the energy sector it would have to build huge facilities to support this countries needs. Replies to this message: jeffyscott (Sep 24, 2008 5:25 am)
#165 of 165 Re: GREEN ALTERNATIVE FUELS [galvang] by jeffyscott Sep 24, 2008 (5:25 am)
Replying to: galvang (May 29, 2008 9:00 pm) What's an "anti-corn ethanol hater"?

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