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Check this: MIT Brainiacs pipe in on Ethanol The gist of the article is that based on the most likely outcomes, they conclude that traveling a kilometer using corn ethanol does indeed consume more energy than traveling the same distance using gasoline. However, further analyses showed that several factors can easily change the outcome, rendering corn-based ethanol a greener fuel. |
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Ethanol from corn, why don't we make ethanol from lets say sugar cane, sugar beets, not just corn. Worst idea ever, now our food prices are or have been going up, so I would say it already is doing more harm then good. The only thing we have going for us if we reach that point, is PHEV vehicles. (plug-in hybrid vehicles) It will be environmentally friendly if we use the wind, solar, hydro, and nuclear in which we have technology for today, but we don't have PHEV's, and we use coal instead. Also electric energy today's equivelent to gasoline is $0.50-$1.00 a gallon. This is only good for commuters because ranges are about 40 miles on Electric only, but would come with a back-up generator that could be run on a fuel to increase range. Where I got my information Also have some more information here You should go into it, very interesting.
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Replying to: fordenvy (Mar 29, 2007 11:40 pm) These guys claim they are going to get about 250 miles on a charge: http://www.teslamotors.com
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Mar 30, 2007 7:46 am) |
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Replying to: fordenvy (Mar 30, 2007 10:11 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Mar 30, 2007 11:05 am) Does everyone agree that PHEV's are the answer and not Ethanol?
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Mar 30, 2007 11:05 am) Well, I'm new to this particular thread but I certainly agree. I do see now that the price guarantees on corn have created the biggest year for planting corn since 1944. Naturally that means less soy and cotton are being planted. Wait for the unintended consequences there. We're throwing an awful lot of money at this thing which is likely to be as big a boondoggle as it was 30 years ago. |
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Replying to: fordenvy (Mar 30, 2007 6:22 pm) IMO, ethanol from corn is foolish. Ethanol from waste products might someday have a role as fuel. For us even one electric only and one PHEV would work. Typically each of our cars is driven less than 25 miles per day. There is no reason that both cars need to be capable of making a long trip. A range of 50-60 miles would be adequate most of the time...but it'd need to have that range even when it's below zero here in WI. |
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also why don't they make ethanol out of sugar beets or some other crops like that.
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