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Ethanol by jimlockey
Jul 19, 2006 (4:00 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 30, 2004 7:28 am)

Ethanol is a big lie just as it was in 1973 & 1974.
 
Ethanol places more $$$$$$$'s in the politicians pocket.
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MIT analysis steps in by larsb
Jan 11, 2007 (6:45 am)
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Check this:
 
MIT Brainiacs pipe in on Ethanol
 
The gist of the article is that based on the most likely outcomes, they conclude that traveling a kilometer using corn ethanol does indeed consume more energy than traveling the same distance using gasoline. However, further analyses showed that several factors can easily change the outcome, rendering corn-based ethanol a greener fuel.
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Its crap ETHANOL by fordenvy
Mar 29, 2007 (11:40 pm)
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Ethanol from corn, why don't we make ethanol from lets say sugar cane, sugar beets, not just corn. Worst idea ever, now our food prices are or have been going up, so I would say it already is doing more harm then good. The only thing we have going for us if we reach that point, is PHEV vehicles. (plug-in hybrid vehicles) It will be environmentally friendly if we use the wind, solar, hydro, and nuclear in which we have technology for today, but we don't have PHEV's, and we use coal instead. Also electric energy today's equivelent to gasoline is $0.50-$1.00 a gallon. This is only good for commuters because ranges are about 40 miles on Electric only, but would come with a back-up generator that could be run on a fuel to increase range.
 
Where I got my information
Also have some more information here
You should go into it, very interesting.
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Re: Its crap ETHANOL [fordenvy] by jeffyscott
Mar 30, 2007 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: fordenvy (Mar 29, 2007 11:40 pm)

ranges are about 40 miles on Electric only
 
These guys claim they are going to get about 250 miles on a charge:
 
http://www.teslamotors.com
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Re: Its crap ETHANOL [jeffyscott] by fordenvy
Mar 30, 2007 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Mar 30, 2007 7:46 am)

You gotta wonder how much thats going to cost, you know. Probally a lot more then what an avg. American can afford. I guess when I said 40 mile range I meant something GM could come out with, we'll see.
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Re: Its crap ETHANOL [fordenvy] by jeffyscott
Mar 30, 2007 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: fordenvy (Mar 30, 2007 10:11 am)

True, that one is $90-100K, but they claim second model is planned and will be 1/2 that. So if they get to a third one, maybe it will be 1/2 yet again...which would be $20-25K.
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Re: Its crap ETHANOL [jeffyscott] by fordenvy
Mar 30, 2007 (6:22 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Mar 30, 2007 11:05 am)

That would be awfully nice, 250 miles to a charge, w/ electricity being equivalent 0.50-1.00 per gallon and only about 25k. Couple years ago you would be dreaming, but today it definetely is plausible. But I feel we still have a few years yet to go for economical production. I also wish the gov't would get it out of their heads that Ethanol is the answer, it isn't in any way, shape or form. Electricity is easier to make than ethanol and can be done in an environmental fashion (wind,solar,hydro,etc).
 
Does everyone agree that PHEV's are the answer and not Ethanol?

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