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#138 of 165 Re: hmm [gljvd] by seniorjose Jun 03, 2006 (4:09 pm)
Replying to: gljvd (Apr 20, 2006 11:35 pm) seems to me that like everything else , the amount of money we pour into making e85 more efficient , the sooner we get it more efficient. We need to do something as I highly doubt the gas prices are going to go down in the next 10 years. It will only go up ... up alot   I agree, walking around denying we have a problem is what canada and Mexico does...not these United States...negative pessimism does not solve any problem. Right NOW ethanol appears to be a viable mix with gasoline (either E10 or E85) AND diesel fuel (E95 or Biodiesel).
#139 of 165 Re: E85 emissions [seniorjose] by gagrice Jun 03, 2006 (4:19 pm)
Replying to: seniorjose (Jun 03, 2006 4:00 pm) Please stick to facts, not sandwiches!   If you have credible documents to refute what is presented by others you should feel free to post. So far you have only posted your opinions with nothing to substantiate them. I did not write that article. I only posted it as a point of reference. If you have disputing evidence you should send it to the author:   By Jack Chang Knight Ridder Newspapers   PS I don't think Castro will start making ethanol from sugar until he has gotten all the oil that sits in the water 45 miles off of Key West Florida. The Cubans are poor and cannot afford to throw money away on get rich quick schemes like ethanol.
#140 of 165 Cheap oil vs Ethanol! by gagrice Jun 03, 2006 (4:25 pm)
An unlikely political figure is willing to fight for lower gas prices. His name: Fidel Castro.   He's working with foreign investors, including China, to find oil off the Cuban coast, close to American waters.   In contrast, American companies aren't looking for oil off the Florida coast, because it's part of the 85 percent of the nation's offshore areas where drilling's not allowed. In addition to the eastern Gulf of Mexico and Atlantic Coast, much of the Pacific and offshore Alaska is also restricted. Only the central and western Gulf, off Louisiana and Texas, has a green light to produce oil.   These federal restrictions were imposed many years ago when oil was cheap and the need for additional drilling was considered insignificant. Fears of environmental damage have kept them in place, though technological improvements have greatly reduced those risks. All new drilling would have to comply with strict safeguards and wouldn't even cause aesthetic harm, as it would occur too far offshore to be seen from land.   Florida and California lawmakers have done the most to obstruct any pro-drilling measures - which is unfortunate, since they are two states with tremendous offshore energy resources.   Cuban Oil   This is how Brazil got oil independent, not using ethanol as the news would have you believe.
#141 of 165 Ethanol by jimlockey Jul 19, 2006 (4:00 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Jul 30, 2004 7:28 am) Ethanol is a big lie just as it was in 1973 & 1974.   Ethanol places more $$$$$$$'s in the politicians pocket.
#144 of 165 MIT analysis steps in by larsb Jan 11, 2007 (6:45 am)
Check this:   MIT Brainiacs pipe in on Ethanol   The gist of the article is that based on the most likely outcomes, they conclude that traveling a kilometer using corn ethanol does indeed consume more energy than traveling the same distance using gasoline. However, further analyses showed that several factors can easily change the outcome, rendering corn-based ethanol a greener fuel.
#146 of 165 Its crap ETHANOL by fordenvy Mar 29, 2007 (11:40 pm)
Ethanol from corn, why don't we make ethanol from lets say sugar cane, sugar beets, not just corn. Worst idea ever, now our food prices are or have been going up, so I would say it already is doing more harm then good. The only thing we have going for us if we reach that point, is PHEV vehicles. (plug-in hybrid vehicles) It will be environmentally friendly if we use the wind, solar, hydro, and nuclear in which we have technology for today, but we don't have PHEV's, and we use coal instead. Also electric energy today's equivelent to gasoline is $0.50-$1.00 a gallon. This is only good for commuters because ranges are about 40 miles on Electric only, but would come with a back-up generator that could be run on a fuel to increase range.   Where I got my information Also have some more information here You should go into it, very interesting. Replies to this message: jeffyscott (Mar 30, 2007 7:46 am) fordenvy (Mar 30, 2007 10:11 am) jeffyscott (Mar 30, 2007 11:05 am) and 3 more...
#147 of 165 Re: Its crap ETHANOL [fordenvy] by jeffyscott Mar 30, 2007 (7:46 am)
Replying to: fordenvy (Mar 29, 2007 11:40 pm) ranges are about 40 miles on Electric only   These guys claim they are going to get about 250 miles on a charge:   http://www.teslamotors.com Replies to this message: fordenvy (Mar 30, 2007 10:11 am) jeffyscott (Mar 30, 2007 11:05 am) fordenvy (Mar 30, 2007 6:22 pm) and 1 more... fezo (Mar 31, 2007 10:41 am)

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