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#490 of 570
Re: B100 -> voided warranty -> oh well !? [bduser] by vchiu
Feb 05, 2007 (3:21 am)
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Replying to: bduser (Jun 20, 2006 10:17 am)

>... Nowhere on its website does MB say that the use of BD is prohibited. Nor do they tell their dealers to inform customers that BD will invalidate the warranty. This is willful deception. They believe there is a problem with BD, but won't tell anyone, and won't make the information public.
 
I think you got a case for a legal action against both your dealer and MB.
 
1) Lack of Contradictory written information regarding B100
2) Absence of proper documentation when taking possession of the car
3) You clearly indicated your dealer you intended to use Biodiesel and he did not objected in any way.
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Re: Exhaust soot on paint 06 CDI [vchiu] by vchiu
Feb 05, 2007 (3:46 am)
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Replying to: vchiu (Feb 05, 2007 3:03 am)

Now I remember
 
RPF stands for te German word RussPartikelFilter. that is the German Acronym of DPF.
 
DPF should be mandatory for all diesels including trucks. they drastically reduce soot
#492 of 570
320 Bluetec VS Toyota Camry Hybrid by vchiu
Feb 05, 2007 (3:55 am)
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I would be curious to see a real world MPG comparison between both.
 
It seems the car develop nearly the same HP and are of similar size and weight. How about performance wise as well?
 
Well, I know that the MB is maybe twice the price of the Toyota, So this can't be taken into consideration.
 
Waiting for an Edmunds Comparison test with anticipation
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Re: Exhaust soot on paint 06 CDI by blissful
Feb 10, 2007 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: vchiu (Feb 05, 2007 3:46 am)

Thanks! I still have only about 6600 miles on it, and it has not seemed to be as noticeable as it was after that one trip. Perhaps part of the "burn in" or breaking-in of the engine allows more soot. Or, maybe it was sticking more due to weather conditions. Also, since then I have polished the car, and perhaps a slicker finish has made the paint surface less "sticky' for the diesel particulates.
J
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Re: Water in the trunk lid? [nimhrod] by blissful
Feb 10, 2007 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: nimhrod (Oct 10, 2006 3:27 pm)

My '06 CDI doesn't get water in the trunk lid, per se BUT whenever it is wet (like after I've washed the car, for example) water drips off the inside of the rear trunk lid on the LEFT side and into the trunk. As I have installed one of those plastic tray insets (purchased for about $100 US from MBZ), I simply wipe up the water with a towel and off I go (i.e. the carpet doesn't get wet.) But it is annoying as it will dump a fair amount of water onto that area, and if I have something IN my trunk, it WILL get wet!
 
I do think it is a flaw, perhaps. Have wondered if one of the drain holes is either blocked somewhere, or if maybe the deck lid gasket isn't positioned properly. HOwever, as I don't drive the car all that much, and it is always garaged, I haven't remembered to follow up on that little idiosyncrasy.
 
Let me know what you find out. And perhaps I'll follow up at the dealer myself.
 
J
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Water in the trunk lid? [blissful] by nimhrod
Feb 10, 2007 (1:38 pm)
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Replying to: blissful (Feb 10, 2007 1:10 pm)

My 2005 CDI has a water problem. Whenever it rains, the trunk lid ends up with water in it. When I open and then close the lid I can hear and feel water rolling around and shifting in there. Plus the inside of the trunk is wet.
  
Anyone else with this same problem?

  
 
Well, here's what happened at the dealer. They called and said that the problem was fixed. When I went to pick her up, they explained that "someone" had put too long a screw into the bottom license plates holes and had pierced the trunk lid, thus allowing water to enter the trunk. This seems a little far-fetched to me.
 
1. Who would FORCE very long sheet metal screws into a new MB license plates bracket. How can you NOT notice when you are busting through the steel lid.
 
2. I am the 2nd owner and the bottom two screw holes were empty when I purchased the car. How can a large quantity of water enter two vertical screw holes? At that size hole, water would appear to be too dense? to force it's way into the holes instead of continuing to run down the lid. Besides, these alleged holes are BEHIND the plate and bracket and UNDER the overhanging license plate light.
 
Anyway, they said it wasn't a warranty item and charged me $140 to plug the hole with silicone. A month later the trunk lid is full of water again and the floor of the trunk is soaked. I bring it back and the service writer says this time it's a missing grommet. When I pick it up he says it wasn't a missing grommet. The repairman SOMEHOW missed the fact that there were TWO license plate screws and he had only plugged one the previous time!
 
I still don't buy the story about two long screws being drilled through the lid. Why would someone replace the existing factory screws with something else? This does not sound plausible or likely to me at all.
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Used diesel pricing by dave8345
Feb 27, 2007 (6:10 am)
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I'm looking for a used 2005 or 2006 CDI. Most of the prices I've seen are close to what the price guides here at Edmunds would suggest for a Mercedes certified used E320 CDI. There's a dealer however in South Carolina that is selling a 2006 left over for $8000.00 off msrp. It's a new vehicle not used. It doesn't have much as far as option are concerned so I'm not nuts about it. It does make me wonder about how much room dealers have to lower their prices on used cars.
 
Has anyone gotten any substantial discounts on certified used vehicles from a dealer or are the diesels too popular to be able to get much of a discount?
 
Thanks
dave
#497 of 570
Re: Used diesel pricing [dave8345] by greasykid1
Feb 27, 2007 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: dave8345 (Feb 27, 2007 6:10 am)

I followed used CDI prices for several months and almost a year ago I found what I wanted. Bought a 2005 with EVERYTHING on it. Have the window sticker at slightly more than $64,000. It is black/black...which I prefered and only had 3,500 miles on it. Bought for $48k.and it has been a great car.
 
To answer yout question I paid what I did because it was EXACTLY what I wanted.I followed many web sites;Ebay.Trader,etc. I am also a member of the Mercedes Benz club. A fellow member who is also a high end car broker had taken it in trade from a customer who wanted the new S car. Needless to say the car I bought was a special order as these cars are never ordered equiped as this one.
 
I would say that the price you are quoted is pretty good depending on equipment. We all know that dealers quote higher than they will usually agree to sell. I assume that you have checked all possible rebates etc. Personally I would go for a very good low milage preowned CDI. Maybe you could then get the equipment that you prefer.
 
Have bought 3 preowned MB's in the last 2 years. One had 1,800 mi,the second 3,500 mi and the third 2,700 mi. Dicounts off list were 15-25%.
 
Hope this helps. You have to look,look,look and be patient.The internet is your best friend although the one I just bought --a 2007 SLK350 popped up in our local newspaper. You never know where or when a deal will show up.
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Used diesel pricing by dave8345
Feb 27, 2007 (10:29 am)
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Thanks Greasy. After comparing a used 2005 or 2006 CDI to a new camry hybrid, I still prefer the CDI but the camry hybrid new with everthing is around 30k versus 45k for a used CDI with the options I'd want. I own a 300SDL which has been a great car so I was seriously considering the CDI's but I'll probably go with the Toyota.
Dave
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Re: Water in the trunk lid? [nimhrod] by blissful
Mar 03, 2007 (8:19 pm)
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Replying to: nimhrod (Feb 10, 2007 1:38 pm)

So... has it been any better since they "fixed" it last time?
I will check to see about my license plate screws, but I agree, their story is fishy. I haven't yet taken mine to the dealer here on that same question. I won't get to it until late March now, but if I figure anything out, I'll let you know! (Unless you now have an answer that satisfies you?)
J

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