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#471 of 570 Diesel Fuel nozzle by klausk Dec 02, 2006 (5:58 pm)
I own a 2005 E320 CDI. Great car. Today I went to a Shell station, where I have re fueled before, but the fuel nozzle did not fit into my fuel tank restrictor anymore. With other words it was to thick. I asked the attendant about what happened here? I don't know, you are the first one to have a problem. So I went to another Shell station, same problem, then I went to a 3rd Shell station, and that one had the skinny nozzle which fit into my fuel filler neck. Can anybody shed some light on this problem, also does anybody have an idea about removing the restrictor in the fuel filler neck. Replies to this message: elias (Dec 05, 2006 6:37 am)
#472 of 570 Biodiesel by benzodiesel Dec 03, 2006 (9:33 pm)
Does anone have experience using biodiesel in a CDI? I know all about Willie Nelson - I'm asking about people with direct experience of their own. Thanks. Replies to this message: klausk (Dec 04, 2006 9:53 am)
#473 of 570 Re: Biodiesel [benzodiesel] by klausk Dec 04, 2006 (9:53 am)
Replying to: benzodiesel (Dec 03, 2006 9:33 pm) I asked the question about BIO Diesel when I picked up my E320 last year in Germany. They said: NO Bio Diesel. When I asked why not, they answered that Bio Diesel would interact with the plastic like the fuel tank. I was not quite happy with the answer, so I wrote to MBUSA and their answer was: only 5% Bio Diesel was approved. There was no explanation on why not. Needless to say, since I am still in warranty, I stay away from Bio Diesel.
#474 of 570 Topic rename? by shipo Dec 04, 2006 (10:09 am)
As the 2007 E-Class diesel has dropped the "E320 CDI" moniker in favor of "E320 BLUETEC", should this discussion be renamed to "Mercedes-Benz E-Class Diesels"?   Best Regards, Shipo Replies to this message: pat (Dec 04, 2006 12:39 pm)
#475 of 570 Re: Topic rename? [shipo] by pat HOST Dec 04, 2006 (12:39 pm)
Replying to: shipo (Dec 04, 2006 10:09 am) Sounds good to me, thanks.
#476 of 570 and right on cue by pat HOST Dec 04, 2006 (3:01 pm)
Check out the article linked in KarenS, "Article Comments: 2007 Mercedes-Benz E320 Bluetech" #1, 4 Dec 2006 2:50 pm and post your reactions there. Replies to this message: shipo (Dec 04, 2006 3:10 pm) pat (Dec 04, 2006 3:16 pm)
#477 of 570 Re: and right on cue [pat] by shipo Dec 04, 2006 (3:10 pm)
Replying to: pat (Dec 04, 2006 3:01 pm) "Timing," as they say, "is everything."   Best Regards, Shipo Replies to this message: pat (Dec 04, 2006 3:16 pm)
#478 of 570 Re: and right on cue [shipo] by pat HOST Dec 04, 2006 (3:16 pm)
Replying to: shipo (Dec 04, 2006 3:10 pm) along with "location, location, location" of course.
#479 of 570 Re: Diesel Fuel nozzle [klausk] by elias Dec 05, 2006 (6:37 am)
Replying to: klausk (Dec 02, 2006 5:58 pm) klausk - 06 TDI jettas have the same "fuel neck restrictor" as your E320 CDI. i don't like it! it is designed to prevent us from using the high-flow diesel "truck nozzles". Apparently with the VW there is a way to remove it - maybe you can have the Benz fuel-neck-restrictor removed? i have not encountered any local stations changing from "car nozzles" to "truck nozzles" and would be quite annoyed if they did that locally. possibly there is a Shell "zone office" which would have info about this for you. or if you could contact the shell station manager, s/he might know why the nozzle change.
#480 of 570 Truck nozzles... by shipo Dec 05, 2006 (6:59 am)
I've filled any number of diesel trucks that I've had occasion to rent over the years, and as such I have a fair amount of experience with both types of nozzles. While I agree that using a truck nozzle to fill a car will certainly fill said car quicker, you are almost guaranteed to create a giant mess when the tank fills. Think about the following:    - Most cars (diesel or otherwise) have a fuel tank located under the back seat these days. Said location is somewhat removed from the fuel filler port and as such requires a filler "neck".  - Most diesel trucks have a very large screw top opening directly on top of the tank(s).  - With the lower flow rate of the smaller diesel nozzle, the "Auto-Shutoff" has enough time to sense fuel back-up in the filler neck and shut off before fuel comes spurting out of the filler port.  - With the direct fill method for trucks, the filler nozzle is directly in the tank and as such the auto-shutoff will sense a rising fuel level well in advance of overflowing said tank.  - Filling a vehicle with a neck-restrictor/remote tank setup (that has had said restrictor removed) with a truck nozzle will push the flow rate far too high for the auto-shutoff feature to engage before a considerable amount of fuel has backed up and pushed out the filler port and onto you, your car and the ground. Ewww.   FWIW, I have seen filler nozzle reduction devices at truck stops made specifically so that in a pinch, one can fill their car from a truck pump. That said, all of the devices that I've seen carry plenty of warnings about filling by hand (i.e. not engaging the auto-shutoff feature) and only at the lowest possible flow rates.   Best Regards, Shipo Replies to this message: klausk (Dec 05, 2006 6:27 pm) shipo (Dec 05, 2006 7:08 pm)

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