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Replying to: cctdi (Jan 02, 2006 3:23 pm) I do love my '06 320 CDI!! 
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Replying to: blissful (Jan 10, 2006 10:57 am) All this talk about bringing different diesel models into the US is interesting, if not confusing. To the best of my knowledge all MB diesels to date in the US have been in-line configurations of 4-, 5-, or 6-cylinders. Do they have a "V" configuration for the European market? I would be concerned about NVH (Noise, Vibration, Harshness) problems with a "V" as well - particularly a "6" as it is inherently an "unbalanced" configuration. The additional cost & complexity of internal balance shafts would likely be necessary. Europe isn't as "horsepower crazy" as we are here in the US so I can't imagine they have more powerful engines then what they're sending us already. And besides, while people ask for (and brag about) horsepower what they are really looking for in an engine is torque and the current E320CDI engine has it in spades!!!! It's an interesting marketing challenge with where to go next with a diesel engine. The C-Class market segment is very price competitve so they may have to remove some vehicle content (power accessories, stereo features, etc.) to maintain the price. The S-Class I think is a better next step. In the past they have tried a 6-cylinder "S" to get the price down & fuel economy up but performance has suffered too much to make the vehicle attractive in the marketplace. The diesel option may be the solution. As much as I would like to see a diesel M-Class (I also own an '02 ML500 so I know firsthand how fuel-thirsty they are!) I think there are too many Engineering hurdles to overcome. The present 4-Matic hardware probably dictates a "V" configuration engine but the "Diesel 4-Matic" market is probably too small to justify the cost to re-design the diesel engine to a "V" configuration or to re-design the 4-Matic hardware to accept an "in-line" engine. Maybe the new GL-Class is a possibility. I am interested to here the thoughts of other owners. Loyal Owner |
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The new diesel 6 is a v-engine--we will be getting that. dave |
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Replying to: loyalowner (Jan 11, 2006 12:58 pm) http://autoblog.com/2006/01/08/detroit-auto-show-mercedes-benz-launches-clean-di- esels-for-the/
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Replying to: loyalowner (Jan 11, 2006 12:58 pm) There is also a new (well revised) V8 CDI in Europe also. It is a 4.0L with 311hp. The only way I can see the U.S. getting this engine in the S-Class (S420 CDI) or possibly a GL420 CDI. E320 CDI V6 Durability Testing - Article New V6 CDI engine in detail - Article New V8 CDI engine in detail - Article M
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Replying to: loyalowner (Jan 11, 2006 12:58 pm) I would be surprised if a lot of diesel 4matics sell, butas I think more about it, I would have considered the 4matic in diesel had it been available. May be a great seller in the NE and NW US. |
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Replying to: cctdi (Jan 11, 2006 6:25 pm) Loyal Owner
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 11, 2006 9:46 pm) You are obviously much better informed than I am regarding MB products. Thank you for setting the record straight. Looks like there could be several diesel models to choose from in the future when I have to replace either my '02 ML500 or '05 E320 CDI. It's nice to have choices! Loyal Owner |
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Replying to: loyalowner (Jan 13, 2006 11:32 am) |
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By now, it is clear that the new V6 MB diesel for E320 and a few other models are sure things for 2007. The question in my mind is the V6 with 2987-cc in displacement still named 320, by fact, it is just about 3.L, shouldn’t be named E300? On the contrary the inline 6 has the displacement of 3222-cc to be justified 3.2 for E320. Can anybody see the scenario differently? I don’t see any incentive for me to be interest in the 07 models unless the 3996-cc V8 is the option for the new models.
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