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Re: Upgrade from Mz3S to MzSpeed6? [waygrabow] by saabski
Sep 21, 2006 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: waygrabow (Sep 21, 2006 3:38 pm)

There's absolutely no match out there for Mazdaspeed 6 in terms of price. In Texas, some dealers are selling Mazdaspeed 6 Sport for $21,500! Albeit you have to finance through Mazda America Credit , but at $21,500...that's over $7,000 off the MSRP. 2006 Subaru WRX TR with no other options in my area are selling for $22,900. Mazdaspeed 6 at this killer prices is not just a simple bargain...it's almost like a highway robbery. I too cross shopped my MS6 with Subaru Legacy GT and WRX. For your money, it's like buying a Legacy GT Spec B for a price of well equiped WRX (non-TR trim). For the money, there's absolutely nothing like it out there. Think of it as a budget Audi S4 or Volvo S60R for a price of a Honda Accord. Also keep in mind that starting in 2007, Mazda is switching to 3year/36K mile warranty. Act on a Mazdaspeed 6 now. There are some great prices to be had everywhere.
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Re: Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B [peter47] by saabski
Sep 21, 2006 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: peter47 (Sep 20, 2006 5:51 pm)

Subaru Legacy Spec B is actually no different than regular Subaru Legacy GT in terms of performance. Its enhancements are more cosmetic rather than performance oriented. Spec B does receive Bilstein shocks, navigation, and unique red-leather interior. But there aren't any noticeable performance upgrades that justfies its hefty price hike over a stock Legacy GT, since its performance numbers are very similar (within exception of braking). As for Mazdaspeed 6, its performance numbers vastly better over anything that a stock Mazda 6 has to offer. Both companies are very experienced with trubo powered cars, and have great know-how on trubo powerplants. Mazda does come with better warranty (at least in 2006), and with current rebates and incentives, a Mazdaspeed 6 sport can be had for a price of Subaru WRX TR! I guess my recommendation would be cross shop a stock Subaru Legacy GT and Mazdaspeed 6 Grand Touring, since their real-world sales prices are similar. If you are going to pay over $30K for a Spec B, pay $2000 more and get yourself a Volvo S60R. S60R with all its incentives will be alsmost same price of Legacy GT Spec B, and Volvo offers better performance, exclusivity, and luxury. But for my money, I would get the Mazdaspeed 6 GT with Navigation, and invest $7000 that I saved not buying a Legacy GT Spec B into Ross IRA.
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Re: Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B [saabski] by once_for_all
Sep 21, 2006 (9:21 pm)
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Replying to: saabski (Sep 21, 2006 7:09 pm)

I agree, price is the issue right now. The Mazda is a better deal.
 
But again I submit that the higher performance driver's car is the Spec B. Spec B handles far better than the Legacy GT, and that isn't just shock absorber improvements. Less roll and bigger wheels too.
 
I believe there is an Edmund's comparison of the two cars that is worthy of a read.
 
John
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Link by pat HOST
Sep 22, 2006 (3:25 am)
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2006 Mazdaspeed 6 vs. 2006 Subaru Legacy GT spec.B
 
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price by audia8q
Sep 22, 2006 (6:33 am)
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A while back I posted that the speed6 was a little too pricey for Mazda's core customers....now that they have very attractive incentives my sales have been very stong. When the car first came out we sold a bunch then we had a slow period...but right now I am selling speed6's like never before. I even took extra allocation which never would have happend 4 months ago. Alot of folks have figured out that the car represents an amazing value with the big discounts.
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Re: Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B [once_for_all] by scottl
Sep 22, 2006 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: once_for_all (Sep 21, 2006 9:21 pm)

once_for_all,
 
I hope you meant to say that between the Legacy GT and the spec.b, the spec.b is the "driver's car", because the edmunds head to head between the spec.b and the Speed6 declared the Speed6 to be the winner in handling and braking.
 
I have a feeling the Speed6 got the short end of the acceleration numbers in the Edmunds test and the R&T test due to the ECU bug that has now been fixed by recall. There are many reports of sub-14 1/4 mile times with stock Speed6s. Also the car is very octane sensitive. Running less than 93 will definitely affect the power, although no damage will be done.
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MS6 vs LGT by xplorx4
Sep 22, 2006 (12:02 pm)
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I cross-shopped both of these vehicles, although I didn't look at the Spec-B because it was several thousand more than I was willing to pay, and I didn't really like the interior color palette. I opted for the MS6 because the LGT lacked probably the most important minor detail that was a MUST-HAVE for me:
 
• auxiliary input for iPod or satellite radio on head unit. LGT audio system does not have this.
 
Other things that influenced my preference for the MS6:
• NAV not available in non Spec-B LGT
• I like the sporty look of the white/black leather
• steering wheel audio controls (LGT doesn't have them)
• electrically height-adjustable HID headlamps (LGT has halogen projectors)
• all windows have one-touch auto-up and auto-down (LGT does not have)
• dual-zone automatic climate control on LGT cannot be switched to single-zone
 
All these things are pretty nit-picky, but IMO, they are the things that differentiated the cars to me. IMO, they're close enough in power, performance, and appearance that I had to look at how much I would enjoy commuting in it 2 hours a day for the next few years. I don't regret my decision, although every time I ride in my friend's LGT, I get jealous of the beautiful instrument panel.
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not so much fun by fasterthanyou
Sep 22, 2006 (12:20 pm)
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I have been in the market for a Mazdaspeed6 after I heard about the huge discount. The dealers were willing to sell for as little as 22000 but I just could not find anything thrilling about this car except the price. I think Mazda offers an exceptional line of cars but missed to put a heart in this one. I owned a 6 a 3 and an RX8 and they've been all reliable and fun to drive and expected the Speed6 to be superior at least to the first two. Well...it is not. It is a regular Mazda 6 with a turbo priced still too high(for what it offers) at 22000.
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Re: not so much fun [fasterthanyou] by monkeymobile
Sep 22, 2006 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: fasterthanyou (Sep 22, 2006 12:20 pm)

Love it or not, saying that the MS6 is priced too high at 22K is, frankly, NUTS!
 
It may not have the same emotion and intensity of some other cars, but for $22K, what car even comes close to this: sub 6-sec 0-60, AWD, 18" wheels and sports suspension, Bose stereo w/6CD changer, power everything, great build quality. A few grand more buys leather, a sunroof and nav.
 
Granted, I wouldn't have purchased an MS6 for $35K or even $30K, but at the price I paid for the MS6 GT, I can't even imagine a better deal.
 
What do you think is a better deal for $22K?
 
-monkeymobile
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Re: not so much fun [monkeemobile] by fasterthanyou
Sep 22, 2006 (2:01 pm)
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Replying to: monkeymobile (Sep 22, 2006 12:59 pm)

Why is it nuts? Because you bought one and thought is the deal of the century, the hidden treasure that nobody knows about. Get real ..the car is just not appealing.
"sub 6sec" Mazda gives 6.2(and don't tell me is underrated)
super cheap 18 alloys(they have 17 on a regular 2.3 mazda3)
NO BOSE stereo (only BOSE speakers),
sport suspension- PLEASE...
Great build quality???????????
How about horrible gearbox...ridiculous clutch action...non-reactive steering...grooved rotors on all the speed6...shortest and weirdest power-band
I would take the RX8 for 21000(not as much torque but with sport car handling or the GTI 20000(torque at any RPM, better handling, way better build quality)

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