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pcm reprogramming by duffd1
Sep 19, 2006 (11:19 am)
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I just got the reprogramming done. Big difference. Much smoother shifting. For those who have not had this recall done, I encourage you to get your speed6 into the service dept ASAP
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Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B by peter47
Sep 20, 2006 (5:51 pm)
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Trying to decide between a Mazdaspeed 6 and a Subaru Legacy Spec B. Tough decision! Any suggestions or advice? The Subaru costs more. I like the styling better of the Mazda but I have heard of some possible reliability issues with it.
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Re: Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B [peter47] by once_for_all
Sep 20, 2006 (7:52 pm)
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Replying to: peter47 (Sep 20, 2006 5:51 pm)

I am a bit biased here, although I do own both a Subaru and a Mazda. Just neither of the ones you are looking at...
 
From a pure "stand back and look at the guts" I have to throw the crown to the Subie. There really are no AWD cars except Subaru that have the ideal drivetrain layout. The flat four boxer engine, centered drive train, and superior full time AWD simply can't be matched by the high tech gizmos and computers that the others throw at it. The Subie will easily go 200k+ miles of AWD fun. The Mazda is essentially a FWD car with part time RWD tacked on. Very sophisticated, and it does work well, but a spade is a spade.
 
My $0.02. Juice can give you a lot more.
 
John
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Re: Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B [once_for_all] by peter47
Sep 21, 2006 (5:26 am)
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Replying to: once_for_all (Sep 20, 2006 7:52 pm)

Thanks for the information John. I have had a few Subarus in the past and had good luck with them. I am in Canada so the MSRP on the Mazdaspeed is $38795.00 and $45995.00 on the Subaru. Quite a difference, that is why I am considering the Mazda. The guy I deal with is a Subaru dealer but will get me whatever I want. He is just concerned about what the trade-in value will be on the Mazda vs the Subaru and he thinks there may be reliability issues with the Mazda. He has no hard evedence of this but he gets this feeling talking to Mazda dealers he knows.
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Re: Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B [peter47] by jeffyscott
Sep 21, 2006 (5:51 am)
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Replying to: peter47 (Sep 21, 2006 5:26 am)

I thought I had read of head gasket issues with Subaru's engine??? If there are, I assume they would be difficult to get to (therfore, expensive to replace) with the engine layout.
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Re: Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B [peter47] by scottl
Sep 21, 2006 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: peter47 (Sep 21, 2006 5:26 am)

I have owned two Mazdas prior to my Speed6, and one Subaru (a 2002 WRX). The Subaru was much more troublesome than my Mazdas. I live in Colorado where Subarus are a dime a dozen, and they have their issues. And their issues tend to be expensive. I'm willing to roll the dice on the Mazda, because of my personal experience. For the money, the Speed6 wins.
 
BTW, if you are concerned about snow performance, I believe the Mazda will at least match the Legacy. The Mazda has the ability to lock the power transfer 50-50 front/rear. Both have limited slip in the rear. I think both will do equally well in the snow, given equal tires, but one downside to the Speed6 is that it comes standard with 18 inch summer only tires. I'm looking for some 17 inch wheels and winter tires for winter use.
 
The AWD system in the Speed6 is basically the same Haldex as used in the Volvos, if that makes any difference. I don't hear any complaints about them.
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Re: Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B [scottl] by once_for_all
Sep 21, 2006 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: scottl (Sep 21, 2006 7:58 am)

The AWD system in the Speed6 is basically the same Haldex as used in the Volvos
 
there you go. That is just the point. The Mazda is FWD until loss of traction commences, and then it is AWD. When we are talking high performance, full time AWD is essential.
 
John
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Re: Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B [jeffyscott] by once_for_all
Sep 21, 2006 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Sep 21, 2006 5:51 am)

I thought I had read of head gasket issues with Subaru's engine??
 
The pre 2003 4 cylinder 2.5 liter had some issues, albeit a small percentage.
 
The 2.5 turbo, and 2003+, have not had any issues. Nor the 6 cylinder boxer.
 
So no. There are no issues on the new ones.
 
John
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Re: Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B [peter47] by abraindrainer
Sep 21, 2006 (3:37 pm)
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Replying to: peter47 (Sep 21, 2006 5:26 am)

Frankly, at these prices you really should also consider a G35x. Granted it is an auto (only) but it also has a true rear wheel bias. The G35x also has better warranty and the interior is a bit nicer. All are certainly cheaper than SpecB and there are more color choices and they can be had without overpriced NAV. In '06 there was major issues with Subies: no stability control. That alone is huge problem for winter driving! In '07, Subies have been upgraded but the MS6 is now so discounted that it actually costs the same (or less) than the regular Legacy GT.
 
LGT is faster straight line but other than that MS6 has it in the braking and cornering departments. In my view, the only reason to get the LGT is if you want to mod the heck out it and get it to 350 HP. However, once MS3 and CX-7 increase the number of folks using the 2.3L Turbo engine, we might see just as many (and more reasonable) mods...
 
My $0.02
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Upgrade from Mz3S to MzSpeed6? by waygrabow
Sep 21, 2006 (3:38 pm)
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Just talked to a sales agent who will sell me a new Mzspeed6 for invoice minus all dealer incentives ($2500) plus dealer handling. He also recommends that I finance with Mazda and then pay it off in three months; that gives me another $1000 rebate. Anyhow, I am interested in the car because it is a premium AWD sedan for, what appears to be, a very modest price. I expect to use it for commuting to work and skiing trips here in Colorado. I am not a racer, not too aggressive, more of a smooth-cruising driver. Will I be able to keep my foot off of the throttle? Are the interior amenities and the AWD system enought to justify this car? Is there a comparable car (similar features for similar money) that I should be looking at?

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