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Re: need some comments from previous 6s owners [radocha] by saabski
Sep 14, 2006 (6:23 pm)
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Replying to: radocha (Sep 12, 2006 9:36 am)

I too cross shopped MS6 with Mazda 6 V6 GT and Mazda CX7. After the test drive, and initial offer ($5000 off MSRP at first), I ended up buying the MS6 Sport. Ride is very good for an all-out performance car. You do feel the bumps more so than say, a Honda Accord, but it's never jittery and somewhat comfortable. Go test drive a Subaru WRX STi, you will literally feel like you are in a crosscountry rally all day. Gas mileage is excellent for a car of this caliber too. I have been driving my MS6 for about a month, and have been getting around 21.5 MPG with aggressive driving and mostly freeway miles. When I get stuck ina stop-and-go traffic, that's when my fuel economy suffers. Overall, definitely a bargain when you consider that my dealership offered the 6 GT V6 hatchback at $24,000, and I ended up paying about $22K for MS6 Sport. I like the way Mazda 6 drove, but MS6 makes me smile everytime I get in the car. By the way, this is coming from an ex-BMW owner.
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lease price ms6 by robger99
Sep 17, 2006 (9:56 am)
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Hi, am up in Michigan and am getting a price of $279.00 month for 24 months with 10,500 miles/year with $1500.00 down for an 06 gt with moonroof.Would need to buy up miles to 15 k/year. How much is it per mile to buy up front? Just wondering if this is a great deal or should i wait. I have 7 payments at 313.00 month on the gas-guzzling chevy trailblazer that i want to get rid of.I would need to roll this in if i make a move before lease end.This dealer has about 20 ms6 in stock.Any input on price/timing of purchase would be appreciated.
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pcm reprogramming by duffd1
Sep 19, 2006 (11:19 am)
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I just got the reprogramming done. Big difference. Much smoother shifting. For those who have not had this recall done, I encourage you to get your speed6 into the service dept ASAP
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Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B by peter47
Sep 20, 2006 (5:51 pm)
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Trying to decide between a Mazdaspeed 6 and a Subaru Legacy Spec B. Tough decision! Any suggestions or advice? The Subaru costs more. I like the styling better of the Mazda but I have heard of some possible reliability issues with it.
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Re: Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B [peter47] by once_for_all
Sep 20, 2006 (7:52 pm)
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Replying to: peter47 (Sep 20, 2006 5:51 pm)

I am a bit biased here, although I do own both a Subaru and a Mazda. Just neither of the ones you are looking at...
 
From a pure "stand back and look at the guts" I have to throw the crown to the Subie. There really are no AWD cars except Subaru that have the ideal drivetrain layout. The flat four boxer engine, centered drive train, and superior full time AWD simply can't be matched by the high tech gizmos and computers that the others throw at it. The Subie will easily go 200k+ miles of AWD fun. The Mazda is essentially a FWD car with part time RWD tacked on. Very sophisticated, and it does work well, but a spade is a spade.
 
My $0.02. Juice can give you a lot more.
 
John
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Re: Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B [once_for_all] by peter47
Sep 21, 2006 (5:26 am)
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Replying to: once_for_all (Sep 20, 2006 7:52 pm)

Thanks for the information John. I have had a few Subarus in the past and had good luck with them. I am in Canada so the MSRP on the Mazdaspeed is $38795.00 and $45995.00 on the Subaru. Quite a difference, that is why I am considering the Mazda. The guy I deal with is a Subaru dealer but will get me whatever I want. He is just concerned about what the trade-in value will be on the Mazda vs the Subaru and he thinks there may be reliability issues with the Mazda. He has no hard evedence of this but he gets this feeling talking to Mazda dealers he knows.
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Re: Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B [peter47] by jeffyscott
Sep 21, 2006 (5:51 am)
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Replying to: peter47 (Sep 21, 2006 5:26 am)

I thought I had read of head gasket issues with Subaru's engine??? If there are, I assume they would be difficult to get to (therfore, expensive to replace) with the engine layout.
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Re: Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B [peter47] by scottl
Sep 21, 2006 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: peter47 (Sep 21, 2006 5:26 am)

I have owned two Mazdas prior to my Speed6, and one Subaru (a 2002 WRX). The Subaru was much more troublesome than my Mazdas. I live in Colorado where Subarus are a dime a dozen, and they have their issues. And their issues tend to be expensive. I'm willing to roll the dice on the Mazda, because of my personal experience. For the money, the Speed6 wins.
 
BTW, if you are concerned about snow performance, I believe the Mazda will at least match the Legacy. The Mazda has the ability to lock the power transfer 50-50 front/rear. Both have limited slip in the rear. I think both will do equally well in the snow, given equal tires, but one downside to the Speed6 is that it comes standard with 18 inch summer only tires. I'm looking for some 17 inch wheels and winter tires for winter use.
 
The AWD system in the Speed6 is basically the same Haldex as used in the Volvos, if that makes any difference. I don't hear any complaints about them.
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Re: Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B [scottl] by once_for_all
Sep 21, 2006 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: scottl (Sep 21, 2006 7:58 am)

The AWD system in the Speed6 is basically the same Haldex as used in the Volvos
 
there you go. That is just the point. The Mazda is FWD until loss of traction commences, and then it is AWD. When we are talking high performance, full time AWD is essential.
 
John
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Re: Mazdaspeed 6 vs Subaru Legacy Spec B [jeffyscott] by once_for_all
Sep 21, 2006 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Sep 21, 2006 5:51 am)

I thought I had read of head gasket issues with Subaru's engine??
 
The pre 2003 4 cylinder 2.5 liter had some issues, albeit a small percentage.
 
The 2.5 turbo, and 2003+, have not had any issues. Nor the 6 cylinder boxer.
 
So no. There are no issues on the new ones.
 
John

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