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#459 of 498 Re: AWD vs. crash safety [ateixeira] by mhattrup Dec 23, 2005 (10:09 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 23, 2005 4:53 pm) LOL - well that's not what I was thinking when I made that comment more that I want to be in a good crash worthy car since there are so many 4X$ bobsledders in our neighborhood!
#460 of 498 Legacy GT vs TSX vs Mazda 6 by janrx7 Dec 24, 2005 (2:27 pm)
last year, I leased an STi (replacing a WRX which replaced a twin turbo RX7).   When my wife's Acura CL lease was up, we looked at the three cars. The Mazda 6 was out because of its lower performance, throttle lag and the poor reputation (and experience) with Mazda dealers in the DC area.   The TSX was a really nice car, but it just didn't match the performance and handling of the Legacy GT Limited (both with Automatic).   We have had the Legacy for 12,000 miles and one year and it is a really nice, comfortable car. The Bridgestone tires on it are terrible, but not as bad as the ones that came with the WRX.   All-in-all, I recommend the Legacy GT without hesitation. Replies to this message: johnny420 (Dec 24, 2005 2:46 pm) autokrat (Dec 30, 2005 12:26 am)
#461 of 498 Re: Legacy GT vs TSX vs Mazda 6 [janrx7] by johnny420 Dec 24, 2005 (2:46 pm)
Replying to: janrx7 (Dec 24, 2005 2:27 pm) The TSX was a really nice car, but it just didn't match the performance and handling of the Legacy GT Limited (both with Automatic).   You're absolutely right. The TSX's handling is superior to the Legacy GT's. And please, if you're going to drive a TSX, drive the 6 MT version.
#462 of 498 Tires by ateixeira Dec 26, 2005 (4:55 pm)
Subaru really ought to upgrade the OE tires it uses, almost without exception they are poor compromises.   MazdaSpeed6 looks pretty interesting...sort of a gentleman's STI/EVO. It competes with the Legacy Spec B, sort of.   -juice
#463 of 498 Car and Driver Comparo of $30K sport sedans by mhattrup Dec 28, 2005 (11:57 pm)
C&D just came in the mail - compared the TSX, Accord, VW Jetta GLI, Mazdaspeed, and Potiac G6. The TSX won the last comparo that included a Legacy so it wasn't included in this comparo. They really panned the Legacy last time but seemed to focus mostly on fit and finish and materials - the car kicked the others in terms of performance. They complained about the windows rattling when they closed the door - they must have had a bad sample because I've always been impressed by the solid door thunk and the interior materials reminded me of my Passat - not lots of hard plastics in there???   Interestingly they panned the Mazada Speed as well this time. It also seemed to out perform the others in terms of the stats but they didn't like the interior materials and the engine noise.   Anyway this time the TSX finished 3rd behind the Accord and the VW. I'm in a VW now and love how it rides and drives but its reliability just sucks. I can see how the GLI won but in the real world a great performer that is always on injured reserve starts to wear pretty thin! I'll wait and see if VW can get it's act together before I buy another one. I'm looking at Acura Honda or Subaru to find a fun car that is also more reliable.   The TSX is criticised in the recent article for a lack of power and I'd have to agree - I test drove one yesterday and found it had great handling and a stiff ride (which I like) reminded me of my 86 Prelude Si which was like a go-cart! The thing accelerates too smoothly though I never felt it press me back into the seat like the Legacy or even the Accord do. I doubt the TSX will get a big HP boost anytime soon as it would probably cut into sales of the TL if it did.
#464 of 498 Spec B by ateixeira Dec 29, 2005 (7:46 am)
They should have looked at a Legacy Spec B model. Different suspension and wheels, plus red "brick" leather (dark red, very handsome). Of course maybe they're waiting for next year, when it's supposed to get a 6 speed manual.   Frameless windows will rattle if you close the door with the windows half open. If the windows are up it doesn't do that.   It scares a few customers off, but the Legacy and Saab 9-3 are the only mid-size sedans to get the IIHS Gold award, so it's definitely not an issue of safety.   GLI won? It's way too overpriced for its size, IMO. VW owners already are having issues, too.   -juice
#465 of 498 Re: Legacy GT vs TSX vs Mazda 6 [janrx7] by autokrat Dec 30, 2005 (12:26 am)
Replying to: janrx7 (Dec 24, 2005 2:27 pm) I was waiting for the Legacy GT for about 2 years. I windsurf, and I needed a fold-down rear seat (preferably 60-40 split) for my gear, so I wanted the wagon. Drove it as soon as local dealer got one. Loved the power, ride, handling and interior look/feel. Then, I turned on the stereo. Uh-oh... Piece of ...., and no optional premium system available... Then, I had my 14 year-old, 5 foot 8 inch tall son sit in back. Uh-oh... no leg room in back if my wife is in front passenger's seat, hardly any toe room under front seat... (behind driver's side even worse, because I'm taller than my wife and because sub-woofer for stereo takes ALL the toe room away). Then I read about mileage. Uh-oh, sub-20 mpg...   I looked at lots of other cars, including 2006 Acura TL -- no fold-down rear seat. But then, the Acura guy showed me the brochure on 2006 TSX (which does have the split, fold-down rear seat) before the actual car was available. When actual car came out, I found it had the same great handling as the 2004-05 TSX, but with improved power, better looks, better steering wheel and gauges, iPod interface, Bluetooth, neat, easy nav that doesn't screw up the excellent audio system or the climate control, enough room for my son, and excellent mileage for a quick (although slower, of course, than the Legacy GT) car!   Bottom line: I bought an '06 TSX last week, and I love it!
#466 of 498 Mileage by ateixeira Dec 30, 2005 (6:53 am)
Sub-20 city, I think it's 19/25. Are you a pessimist, or what?   Go to the 2005 Legacy threads and ask, most people average 22-23 mpg or so, not sub-20.   You're stuck with the stereo, sadly. The HVAC controls are integrated so you can't swap out the head unit. You can on the base Legacy 2.5i or SE, but not any Limiteds or GTs. Subaru fell behing in this area, there's also nowhere to plug in an iPod, so people have crafted clever solutions to get around this.   Congrats on the TSX, sounds like you picked the right car for your needs.   -juice Replies to this message: pacman2004 (Jan 11, 2006 8:11 am)
#467 of 498 Re: Mileage [ateixeira] by pacman2004 Jan 11, 2006 (8:11 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 30, 2005 6:53 am) The radio will be able to be swapped out soon just wait it has not been out long enough. My 2005 GT didn't come with NAV so I put my sat radio in the spot above where the nav is suppose to be and it looks sweet. But you have to be handy to do this. Another 6 months and you will see aftermarket kits to put a aftermarket deck in. Mileage wise I am getting 9.8liters/100km on the Highway and 10.7liters/100km in the city. I got 40k on mine now and had the rotors replaced under warranty.
#468 of 498 NAV by ateixeira Jan 11, 2006 (8:25 am)
Nowadays, with remote antennaes you can make an aftermarket NAV unit look and work like a built-in. A guy in the CR-V threads took a Garmin c330 and did that, mounted it in the center storage bin and the antennae remotely, it even powers on with the ignition.   For the Legacy, I know at least one dealer in NY that sold a kit and offered the option on new cars. Of course now it's also a factory option.   -juice

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