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#204 of 498 LGT handling: MT review is a double-edge sword
Sep 08, 2004 (8:47 am)
That Motor Trend review by Jeff Bartlett was less-than-thorough as it made no mention of handling. The “athleticism” that he refers to concerns the engine. No argument there.
“Power off the line is spirited, but once rpm climbs past 3000, the torque approaches its peak and the car scoots with unexpected athleticism.”
But the Motor Trend review by Todd Lassa was both complimentary and critical regarding Legacy GT handling, calling the Outback steering more confident and clearly preferring the latter.
“The 250-horsepower Legacy 2.5 GT's claim to sport-sedan prowess is legit. With its turbo-pancake engine and slick-shifting five-speed, it's an adult's WRX that handles twisty mountain roads offering good, quick transitions and slight roll at turn-in giving way to flat, hard cornering. But its steering feels darty and overboosted, with more quickness than feel and feedback, making us tentative in fast sweepers on the outside lane of the mountain road. We had no such complaints with Japanese-spec 2.0-liter turbo Legacy GTs last year at the Fuji racetrack ("First Drive," October 2003). Subaru says the only difference is all-season tires in place of the Japanese version's 17-inch summer tires, but on this side of the Pacific, the slower-ratio Outback steering (16:1 versus 15:1 for Legacy GT) feels better.”
“We initially predicted the new Legacy was poised to take a bigger share than the current 20/80 Legacy/Outback sales split. After driving the Outback, with its more confident steering and amateur rally-car demeanor, we see no reason to switch--except out of an SUV.”
Sep 08, 2004 (8:53 am)
Well, it's just one opinion.
I drove them back-to-back, the GT's steering is head-and-shoulders above the Outback's without a doubt. On the track it allowed you to make turns without ever taking both hands off the wheel, for instance.
In fact you can even shift manually and still keep both hands there because of the buttons.
Outback has a lot more isolation and much less steering feel/feedback. I'd choose the Outback if I were going to drive over a lot of pot holes or gravel and dirt roads.
Todd's prediction was wrong, by the way, there has been a shift towards more Legacy sales as a % of the total.
Sep 08, 2004 (8:58 am)
Three opinions... MT's Lassa, the C&D review, and mine.
Sep 08, 2004 (9:13 am)
According to Motor Trend, the TSX had a 0-60 time of 7.5. Next to the LGT's 5.8 (official), there's not much comparison. That was the only performance comparison figure I could find in Motor Trend but I didn't look very thoroughly.
Sep 08, 2004 (9:14 am)
I was talking about Lassa's, but yes, three. Four if you include mine.
What about skidpad, slalom, and braking? I do think you have to look at the whole package.
#209 of 498 Hold on -- there's one more comparo coming
Sep 08, 2004 (12:04 pm)
On some other owners' forums, I've been reading rumors of the October issue of R&T that compares just the GT and TSX. Apparently, in this comparo the GT comes out on top.
Sep 08, 2004 (12:05 pm)
Let's give the TSX camp a couple of days of glory, though. LOL
No surprise, different strokes for different folks...
#211 of 498 comparo's? post#209
Sep 08, 2004 (12:34 pm)
If thats true why is the Legacy always compared to the TSX?I think the AudiA4 and the BMW330XI and the VOLVO S40 AWD would be great comparisons.Although they all pricier than the subaru,they are all AWD sedans geared towards sporty driving.
Sep 08, 2004 (12:54 pm)
C&D and R&T probably compared the TSX to the Legacy because they are owned by the same publisher. They probably just share test drive vehicles to save money.
Sep 08, 2004 (4:51 pm)
wait until next month. Consumer reports will compare the legacy to the Acura TSX, Audi A4 Volvo S40. Let's see how this exact same comparison comes out. One glaring ommision in the C&D comparison was the fact that neither the Audi nor the Volvo had their AWD options. This would increase the price and weight. Their acceleration and braking would suffer the weight. The subie would trounce it even more.