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Rumor has it, TJ will be replaced with KJ based vehicle. Gone are solid front axles, and ladder frames with the 4.0L pushing it all. In are IFS unibody framed cute-ute styled vehicles pushed with a 2.4L 4cyl, 2.8L Desiel, or the destructable 3.7L V6. If you want to know what the body will look like, take a late model tracker and put the liberty front end on. Heard no more removable doors.
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| There is no way Jeep would get rid of the Wrangler look, it's everything Jeep is, and everything Jeep was, and everything Jeep will be in the future. They would have to be nuts to get rid of the Wrangler, they might get rid of the 4.0 for the 3.7, and they might(I'm hoping)put the 2.8 Diesel in it, but they won't make that dramatic of a change, besides the vehicle you are describing is a Liberty. | |
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Just got my latest Car and Driver in the mail and there's a pic and blurb about the new wrangler. I'm going off memory right now, so some of this may be incorrect, but it says it will be released in early 2006 as a 2007 model. Changes include revised doors (hard to tell from pic whether they were still removable), round side mirrors, integrated front bumper/winch assembly, and new headlight/foglight assembly, and that's about all i remember off hand. The bumper/winch looked slick, the side mirrors very old school- think 1950's ford/chevy pickup-esque. Doors looked similar, but hard to tell because of the angle. The headlights were round (at least they learned that lesson), and the foglights were integrated into it a little down and to the outside, so the 2 circles (headlight and foglamp) shared a little common area in the corner. I think car and driver described it as looking "Siamese", but as I am fairly unfamiliar with folks from Siam, that term didnt mean a whole lot to me. Anywho, that's about all I can remember. I've been trolling this and the regular wrangler board for a while, but because I am as-of-yet jeepless, I havent had anything to post about. Hopefully one of these days I'll become a more regular poster. -dave |
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It was shown in another forum that the C&D photo is just a Photoshopped image of the Rescue concept vehicle... Photochop done by user "electric sheep".  -twylie |
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I wouldn't be surprised if the next Wrangler did incorporate a lot of styling ques from the Rescue concept, but it is not going to look as close as that pic is, unless they are going to downsize it to scale. The Rescue is huge. I have seen some sources indicate the Wrangler would use the libby platform, but the most recent articles I have seen have indicated that the Wrangler will remain on its own platform. I cannot remember an exact source at the moment, but I think it was in a Toledo newpaper article regarding the Jeep assembly plant expansions, and new construction. However, I am not sure. I know a lot of Jeep people fear what DCX will do to the Wrangler, but I also think they realize that the Wrangler represents the Jeep image, and that image is what sells all those IFS Liberty's. However, its hard to speculate what it might have or might not since DCX has been awfully quiet on the whole thing. Knowing what the Wrangler means to the brands image, I do not expect they will screw around with it a whole lot. They need it to comply with increasingly tighter safety standards which could end the ability to offer removeable doors. Thank the government, not Jeep for that. However, they still have a couple years to engineer a solution to it. IFS vs Axle is a big debate, and I wouldn't be surprised to see an IFS. Maybe the solution could be having an IFS installed on a subframe for the bulk of Wranglers that are bought for daily driving and do not venture far off road (ala the Mustang Cobra IRS), and a solid axle option for the off roaders. The 4.0L is going to die. Its an old engine that really is getting a little long in the tooth. I do not think the Libby 3.7L is a good solution, but maybe they will make improvements to that motor or come out with another. I heard rumors that DCX is looking at making a 6 cylinder version of their V8 hemi. That might be a better solution than the 3.7L. Most everything up to this point is still speculation. So don't panic yet, and be sure to tell DCX what you want to see, or don't want to see in the new Wrangler. They do listen! |
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put the 2.8 CRD or some other diesel engine in it, if they are going to put a V6 Hemi engine in it why don't they just lob two cylinders off the 5.7 Hemi. Chevy lobbed two cylinders off the 5.7 Liter to make the 4.3 Liter, the 4.3 is one hell of an engine to, maybe the 5.7 Liter Hemi with two cylinders lobbed off would be a 4.3 Liter Hemi, or it would be cool if it's a 4.2 because Wranglers used to have a 4.2 anyway. Is there some reason they don't just lob off two cylinders, maybe that don't work for a Hemi engine, hopefully they put an MDS system in any other engine they put in any Jeep, even if it's a 4 cylinder diesel engine. I don't see the difference between IFS and Solid Axle except Solid Axles are older and seem better suited for the Wrangler because it's simpler, other than that I could care less, the Liberty and Grand Cherokee are great off road and both have IFS.
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on the Wrangler forum. In a replacement for a Wrangler, what features would you need for it to have to be a Jeep Wrangler (or its true replacement)? Removable doors? IFS or SRA? Roll cage? 4.0L engine? What features make a Jeep a Jeep? Let's hope DC is reading this and takes serious note. -Paul
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they update the interior a bit. the rugged look works on the outside, but inside we need real seats. if its reaqlly an offroad vehicle, a navi system would be fitting on the higher end classes.
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Replying to: steven2 (Jul 16, 2004 8:10 pm)
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Please don't encourage DC to simply chop two cylinders off the existing Hemi to create a Hemi V6. That is what GM did with the 4.3V6 which, while a decent engine in terms of reliability, is pretty rough. As we all know, 90 degree V6 engines usually require a counter-rotating balance shaft to run smoothly, and even then have a hard time running like a good 60 degree motor or an inline six. How about this - DC should develop a 60 degree 4.0 liter SOHC 3 valve per cylinder V6 that could be used as power for the Durango, Dakota and all Jeep models. Tune it for low end torque and output figures of 235hp and 255 lb-ft of torque would not be out of the question and definitely an improvement over any current offering. AND, it would likely be silky smooth.
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