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#478 of 519 Re: My driving style is now more sensible, more economically sound. [warner] by xcel Dec 14, 2005 (1:49 pm)
Replying to: warner (Dec 14, 2005 12:51 pm) Hi Warner: You and I both drive in the Chicago area and you are spending a nickel more to save an hour of drive time let alone receive just 35 in an 06 Civic? Not only are your assumptions so far off as to be laughable, your FE is pathetic at best. Thank goodness my PZEV Accord is much more comfortable and I receive much higher FE while driving between 0 and 70 mph on our tollways day in and day out … Even amongst the massive traffic jams at the toll plaza’s we enjoyed all spring, summer, and fall. Must have been all those hypermilers in your way, at the Touhy toll’s daily 5 - 10 mile back up right? Good Luck Wayne R. Gerdes Replies to this message: warner (Dec 14, 2005 6:24 pm) xcel (Dec 14, 2005 8:03 pm) warner (Dec 14, 2005 8:47 pm)
#479 of 519 Re: My driving style is now more sensible, more economically sound. [mirth] by larsb Dec 14, 2005 (1:52 pm)
Replying to: mirth (Dec 14, 2005 1:19 pm) quote mirth-"driving like a grandmother is not going to save the world, or even the US."-end quote What you state is true right now, only because not enough people drive conservatively. Look at these numbers: 250 million registered passenger trucks and cars and SUVs in the USA. Let's say 150 million of them get driven every day. If all of those people slowed down enough to save a nickel's worth of fuel every day, that's $7.5 million saved every day. $225 million saved per month. $2.7 BILLION saved per year. That's a lot of money not going to oil companies and/or Saudi Princes. Maybe not saving the world, but no one can deny it would be a GOOD thing for us all. Replies to this message: falconone (Dec 14, 2005 2:01 pm) larsb (Dec 14, 2005 2:13 pm) falconone (Dec 14, 2005 3:53 pm) gagrice (Dec 14, 2005 6:22 pm) warner (Dec 14, 2005 6:32 pm) gagrice (Dec 14, 2005 6:53 pm)
#480 of 519 Re: My driving style is now more sensible, more economically sound. [larsb] by falconone Dec 14, 2005 (2:01 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Dec 14, 2005 1:52 pm) I happen to agree with you, but let's face it. The majority of drivers today drive faster than say 10-15 years ago. I drive on a 55mph speed limit expressway everyday. The average speed is 75!!! If you drive in the right lane because you want to drive slow, then you end up getting caught in merge mania. I hate the center lane, so I am almost forced into driving in the left lane. I'll be honest... I drive 75-80 along with everyone else i.e. flow. Believe me,,, I would not mind at all if that flow slowed to 60-65. Unless enforcement gets stricter, people will continue to waste fuel. You have EVERY right to go whatever speed you want, as long as you are not impeding others. I am sure you're an excellent driver. Replies to this message: larsb (Dec 14, 2005 2:13 pm) falconone (Dec 14, 2005 3:53 pm) gagrice (Dec 14, 2005 6:22 pm)
#481 of 519 Re: My driving style is now more sensible, more economically sound. [falcon by larsb Dec 14, 2005 (2:13 pm)
Replying to: falconone (Dec 14, 2005 2:01 pm) quote falcon-"You have EVERY right to go whatever speed you want, as long as you are not impeding others"-end quote That begs this question: What is the definition of "impeding others?" Driving the speed limit or slightly below on a two or three lane "city street" road, regardless of the lane, should not be considered "impeding others." Driving EXACTLY the speed limit on a one lane "city street" road should not be considered "impeding others" but a lot of people (mostly habitual speeders) seem to think it IS impeding. Driving the speed limit or slightly below on a three or four lane HIGHWAY road or FREEWAY, in the right lane, should NEVER be considered impeding anyone. There are other lanes, if you want to go faster, get thee into them. Oh, and here is my FAVORITE Pet Peeve: People who think the HOV lane is the "super fast" lane. If I want to drive 0-5 MPH at or above the speed limit in the HOV lane, I should be able to. But talk about making people mad - WHEW !! People who use the HOV lane for the SUPER FAST lane should be arrested on the spot. They are idiots. Replies to this message: falconone (Dec 14, 2005 3:53 pm) gagrice (Dec 14, 2005 6:22 pm)
#482 of 519 Re: My driving style is now more sensible, more economically sound. [falcon by falconone Dec 14, 2005 (3:53 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Dec 14, 2005 2:13 pm) My definition of impeding may not be what others believe. IMO, impeding is going slower than the speed limit and/or not consistent with the current flow of traffic. Hypermilers make up a fraction of 1% of all drivers. I think the bigger problem are the seniors that are retired that HAVE to drive during rush hour. There ought to be a law that requires anyone over 60 to take their driver's test again.
#483 of 519 Re: My driving style is now more sensible, more economically sound. [falcon [larsb] by gagrice Dec 14, 2005 (6:22 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Dec 14, 2005 2:13 pm) What is the definition of "impeding others?" My definition of impeding traffic is someone that others change lanes to get around and then move in front of the slower driver. I happen to be in your city at this moment. I just drove my new motor home down from Colorado Springs. I was on Interstate 10 impeding traffic this morning. I was trying to keep my speed under 70 MPH. I was passed by more trucks than you can imagine. They would go around me and pull back into the lane in front of me. I cannot imagine getting on one of your freeways and driving under 65 MPH. You would get run off the road for sure. I also see why you are pushing so hard for clean vehicles. I could see the brown haze this morning 30 miles out of Tucson all the way to Phoenix. You air pollution is as bad as the worst Southern CA has to offer. PS Diesel was less than Premium at a station along Interstate 10 just before Chandler where I turned off the highway. It was $2.359 and regular was $2.229. Your regular is higher than Colorado $2.099, they were charging $2.799 at the same station for diesel. Good thing my vehicle has a 500 mile plus range.
#484 of 519 Re: My driving style is now more sensible, more economically sound. [xcel] by warner Dec 14, 2005 (6:24 pm)
Replying to: xcel (Dec 14, 2005 1:49 pm) Hi Warner: You and I both drive in the Chicago area and you are spending a nickel more to save an hour of drive time let alone receive just 35 in an 06 Civic? Not only are your assumptions so far off as to be laughable, your FE is pathetic at best. Thank goodness my PZEV Accord is much more comfortable and I receive much higher FE while driving between 0 and 70 mph on our tollways day in and day out … Even amongst the massive traffic jams at the toll plaza’s we enjoyed all spring, summer, and fall. Must have been all those hypermilers in your way, at the Touhy toll’s daily 5 - 10 mile back up right? Good Luck Wayne R. Gerdes Wayne, I'm happy that you are concerned about the mileage I've been getting (the 35mpg was on my 2004 Civic that I just traded in, by the way). However, I am more than pleased with 35mpg average so don't lose any sleep over my mileage. I have gotten as high as 40mpg on a tank before, but found it wasn't worth it TO ME to adjust my driving style in order to get that extra mileage. Now I'm sure you're going to tell me that if I adjusted it even more, I'd be able to get 60mpg. The truth is, I don't care. I don't care to drive that way, and I won't drive that way. If you want to, that's FINE....no problem. That's your choice, just as it is mine to drive the way that I want to drive and just the way it is for my doctor friend who drives a Hennessey Viper and gets less than 10mpg. We're all doing what we want to do. If you choose to granny drive in the right lane and stay out of the way of those of us who don't care to drive that way, I have no problem with that. Not everyone wants to drive like a "hyper-miler". Get over it. Warner Replies to this message: xcel (Dec 14, 2005 8:03 pm) warner (Dec 14, 2005 8:47 pm)
#485 of 519 Re: My driving style is now more sensible, more economically sound. [larsb] by warner Dec 14, 2005 (6:32 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Dec 14, 2005 1:52 pm) If all of those people slowed down enough to save a nickel's worth of fuel every day, that's $7.5 million saved every day. $225 million saved per month. $2.7 BILLION saved per year. That's one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at it is that it would save me $18.25 a year. So, for the cost of a decent pizza each year, I'll drive the way that I feel comfortable, thanks. Warner
#486 of 519 Re: My driving style is now more sensible, more economically sound. [larsb] by gagrice Dec 14, 2005 (6:53 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Dec 14, 2005 1:52 pm) If all of those people slowed down enough to save a nickel's worth of fuel every day, that's $7.5 million saved every day. $225 million saved per month. $2.7 BILLION saved per year. If all the people drove ONE mile less each day it would save more than a Nickel. I don't think most Americans are interested in either option or any other money saving plan. We are consumers to the max. What was our trade deficit just announced? $68,000,000,000 I believe. No small part of that was new cars every from overseas. Plus all the parts for those cars. Somehow your nickel a day falls a bit short.
#487 of 519 Re: My driving style is now more sensible, more economically sound. [warner] by xcel Dec 14, 2005 (8:03 pm)
Replying to: warner (Dec 14, 2005 6:24 pm) Hi Warner: I receive quite a bit more then 35 mpg in an Accord so you don’t have to be concerned with this maximum comfort driver vs. whatever you are driving and the way you were driving it … And about that granny sitting in the right lane while we are all crawling along at 2 mph for an hour. That’s right, the granny in the 92 Chevrolet Cavalier is traveling as fast or faster then your friend in the Viper and in whatever you are in at this time? I guess he bought it to look good because he certainly isn’t driving to fast in the Chicago area as of late … How about you? Are you pretending to do 75 in that bumper to bumper crawl we call the Hillside strangler or the Touhy Toll as of late? Funny how that grandma is kicking your $$ to her destination! Pre-Open Road Tolling of course Good Luck Wayne R. Gerdes Replies to this message: warner (Dec 14, 2005 8:47 pm)