Hybrid Gas Mileage Good? Bad? As Expected?

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#460 of 519 Re: Everyone says that, but I have yet to see the science to prove it. [xcel] by gagrice Dec 12, 2005 (7:28 pm)
Replying to: xcel (Dec 11, 2005 5:18 pm) Are you angry and frustrated that you are only receiving 26.xx mpg in your TDI Not even a little bit. would you rather receive 48 in a Prius II? No, I would rather receive 48 MPG in a VW Beetle TDI. Which I will probably buy when I sell the Passat. When the Beetle has 7500 miles and I sell it who knows what I will buy. Maybe by that time some company will build a plugin hybrid or a series hybrid. Maybe Honda will bring their diesel to America for me to try. I can understand utility but handling? You don't sound like you understand that the Suburban & Silverado are for utility. The Passat is for handling. I don't suppose you would want to take a 100 mile trip on the back roads of our mountains with your Accord against the Passat. If you think it handles so well. excerpts from Edmund's Honda Accord cons: Tepid handling, brakes should be more powerful Passat: Better handling dynamics than most sedans in its class, Good brakes and handling trump high mileage any day of the week for me.
#461 of 519 Was scared of the freeway, but the car did great ......... by larsb Dec 13, 2005 (7:50 am)
This past weekend, for the first time in almost 90 days, I took my 2004 HCH onto a FREEWAY !!! (drama !!!) My normal daily commute is all city streets, and I have learned all the "below 50 MPH" sweet spots and have used all the techniques I know and have managed to keep my last three tanks above 50 MPG. This latest tank was at 300 miles and sitting at 51.0 MPG when my two kiddos and I entered the freeway Saturday morning for a 20 mile trip to see Narnia on the biggest movie screen in the Southwest USA. I was very worried that highway speeds were going to deflate my MPG, and although the car is rated 51 MPG on the hwy, that is with the EPA test which never exceeds 60 MPH in that portion of the test. I was getting on a freeway which topped out at 65 MPH, and many people drive 75 on it. Lucky for me, this was 7:45 AM Saturday, so the freeways in Phoenix were pretty abandoned compared to later in the day. I was able to mostly stay out of people's way, keeping my speed fluctuating between 50 and 60 MPH most of the time. By the time I got to the movie theater, my tank had moved up to 51.8 MPG !! I had gained .8 MPG on a 20 mile highway jaunt !! The trip back was down a different freeway in a later part of the day, and I expected a lot more people and a lot more speeders, but it turned out there were a couple of minor delays and the same speeds as the first leg were possible, so I turned into my driveway still sitting at 51.8 MPG. I'm going to be a little less worried about freeway travel next time !!! Love my HCH !!
#462 of 519 Inname comparision by tahoey Dec 13, 2005 (11:53 am)
I don't quite understand why in the world a person would compare mileage on a suburban and a Toyota Speck. Of course the Suburban burns more gas, it's 5x the vehicle of the Toyota. Oh, and you won't care how much gas you've burn when you are driving your Toyota Speck down the freeway, get in a wreck, and all dead. Oh, and the guy in the Suburban in the same wreck it telling all of his friends about the poor guy in a Toyota Speck who died when then both rear-ended the car in front on them. Oh, and for the Eco-freaks, most half-ton Suburbans burn E85, while your Toyota still burns hated fossil fuels. Replies to this message: falconone (Dec 13, 2005 12:07 pm) rorr (Dec 13, 2005 12:27 pm) falconone (Dec 13, 2005 12:42 pm) rorr (Dec 13, 2005 1:07 pm) and 1 more...
#463 of 519 Re: Inname comparision [tahoey] by falconone Dec 13, 2005 (12:07 pm)
Replying to: tahoey (Dec 13, 2005 11:53 am) The Suburban gets better mileage than a Corolla. Especially when half its life is on the mechanic's lift. Oh... the Toyota can use E85 fuel.
#464 of 519 Re: Inname comparision [tahoey] by rorr Dec 13, 2005 (12:27 pm)
Replying to: tahoey (Dec 13, 2005 11:53 am) What's really inname is a claim the Suburban is 5x the vehicle of the Toyota. That's really dunb. And ingorunt. BTW - the extra mass actually works AGAINST the driver/passengers of a Suburban when hitting an immobile object like a tree or bridge abutment. The body/frame of the vehicle must absorb much more kinetic energy (since the vehicle has more mass) and inevitably, some of this extra energy is transferred to the occupants. The extra mass is only a benefit in car/car collisions. Not to mention the fact that the Toyota Speck is much more nimble and better stopping so is more likely to avoid the accident (or reduce the impact velocities) compared to the Suburban. Not to mention the much lower risk of rollover for the Speck compared to the Suburban. And I'm just curious - I can't seem to find out any specs on the Speck ( ) on either Toyota's web-site or here at Edmunds. Is that a new model? Replies to this message: falconone (Dec 13, 2005 12:42 pm) rorr (Dec 13, 2005 1:07 pm) falconone (Dec 13, 2005 1:36 pm)
#465 of 519 Re: Inname comparision [rorr] by falconone Dec 13, 2005 (12:42 pm)
Replying to: rorr (Dec 13, 2005 12:27 pm) Haven't you heard?? It's a new model only available in certain parts of the US. Quite a vehicle!!! Replies to this message: rorr (Dec 13, 2005 1:07 pm) falconone (Dec 13, 2005 1:36 pm)
#466 of 519 Re: Inname comparision [falconone] by rorr Dec 13, 2005 (1:07 pm)
Replying to: falconone (Dec 13, 2005 12:42 pm) "It's a new model only available in certain parts of the US. Quite a vehicle!!!" I'll bet. Since the Suburban is 5x the Speck, I'm guessing the Speck is about 4' long, 2' wide, 18" tall, seats two and weighs less than 1000 lbs. Quite a vehicle alright! Replies to this message: falconone (Dec 13, 2005 1:36 pm)
#467 of 519 Re: Inname comparision [rorr] by falconone Dec 13, 2005 (1:36 pm)
Replying to: rorr (Dec 13, 2005 1:07 pm) Absolutely!!! I also understand that there will be a $4,000 tax credit for all 2006 Specks, so I have my order in!!
#468 of 519 Re: A/C on or off [fndlyfmrflyr] by warner Dec 14, 2005 (9:59 am)
Replying to: fndlyfmrflyr (Dec 11, 2005 3:26 am) THANK YOU! I'm happy to hear that someone didn't radically change their driving style to squeeze a few extra mpg out of their car. It's fine for people to play those MPG games, as long as they're not making everyone else's drive miserable by being in the way. I say to the hyper-milers, "Go get your record mileage on the weekend when the roads are not congested, but please don't make my commute miserable so you can save a nickel each day on gas." I am a fairly aggressive driver though....so maybe I have my own issues, too. But I promise that I won't get in anyone's way or slow them down if they want to go faster than me in the left lane. (I'm not a closet cop...I'll let them slow people down who are going too fast). Okay...I'm done venting....back to EPA stuff Replies to this message: misterme (Dec 15, 2005 3:04 pm)
#469 of 519 HMM, let's see - 250 million cars, saving 5 cents a day... by larsb Dec 14, 2005 (10:12 am)
quote warner-"but please don't make my commute miserable so you can save a nickel each day on gas."-end quote I do feel sorry for you if passing a slow car can "make your commute miserable." We ALL need to slow down. It's to the point of ridiculous to race up to the next red light - STOP, then RACE to the next red light - STOP, repeat all day. That's SO WASTEFUL and people do it completely by habit and don't even know any better. If we all slowed down and saved a nickel on gas a day, that $12,500,000 saved every day. Sounds good to me.... Replies to this message: warner (Dec 14, 2005 10:25 am)