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Hybrid Gas Mileage Good? Bad? As Expected?

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Re: Prius fuel economy [mcats #3] by Sylvia STAFF
Jul 02, 2004 (2:01 pm)
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Replying to: mcats (Jul 02, 2004 4:26 am)

Great site! Welcome to Edmunds.com
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Re: Prius fuel economy [mcats #3] by gagrice
Jul 02, 2004 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: mcats (Jul 02, 2004 4:26 am)

Yes, welcome to the forum. Do you have 2 or 3 Prii? Are You going to corner the market like the Hunt brothers? Just kidding, sounds like your expeerience has been very good with the Prius. Look forward to long term reports.
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Re: Prius fuel economy [gagrice #5] by mcats
Jul 04, 2004 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 02, 2004 3:28 pm)

Lol, thanks for the welcome! I have one Prius, which I traded in an '01 Prius for. My father is trying to place a pre-order for an RX400H... if he's able to get one then I'll update my website with info about that as well.
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Re: Prius fuel economy [mcats #7] by mcats
Jul 04, 2004 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: mcats (Jul 04, 2004 11:42 am)

To be fair... I should bring up that my dealer service person overfilled my oil at the last change (it was in March)... at least according the dipstick. I'm not sure if there is damage or not, so I am having it checked and a little of the oil drained. There are discussions about this on another Prius group (Prius_2g on yahoo groups)... once I find out about the oil issue I will also update my webapge with that info.
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Re: Hybrid Gas Mileage: Good? Bad? As Expected? [Sylvia #1] by terryh2u
Jul 04, 2004 (12:30 pm)
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Replying to: Sylvia (Jun 29, 2004 10:34 am)

Although I would like it to be better, we're still getting about 48 MPG in our 2004. I think part of the problem is 2 fold, 1st: We live in a very hilly area and we do alot of highway mileage which doesn't allow the electric motor to perform as well as in city driving and 2nd: The EPA estimates were not designed for real world driving. I just noticed that in the current issue of Consumer Reports that the EPA may start collaborating with them to develop estimates that are far more accurate than the system they use currently.
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Re: CR Professional drivers [misterme #10] by terryh2u
Jul 04, 2004 (1:14 pm)
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The CR writers list the Prius as getting 44 MPG combined. They tend to be a little throttle happy with their testing though. The 44 MPG still gets accolades from them and are impressed with the 10.5 sec. 0-60 time coming from such an impressive drivetrain...
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Re: CR Professional drivers [terryh2u #11] by terryh2u
Jul 04, 2004 (1:50 pm)
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Replying to: terryh2u (Jul 04, 2004 1:14 pm)

The Honda Civic Hybrid attained 36 MPG in the CR testing. That's far less mileage than the Prius' 44 MPG and it doesn't even have the interior room that the Prius has. Besides, the HCH isn't even a true hybrid...
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by xcel
Jul 04, 2004 (3:38 pm)
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Hi Terryh2u:
 
___Let me attempt to enlighten you a bit …
 
___There is a Real Hybrid Mileage Database over at Greenhybrid.com and it would behoove you to take a glance over the various automobiles listed …
 
___Let me give you just a few highlights as to what can be found there in case you don’t think the HCH and the Insight by inference are not real hybrid’s …
 
10 Honda Insight’s are posted with 4 beating the EPA combined estimate of 64 mpg.
55 Toyota Prius II’s are posted with just 4 beating the EPA combined estimate of 55 mpg.
37 Honda Civic Hybrid’s are posted with 20 beating the EPA combined estimate of 48 mpg.
6 Toyota Prius I’s are posted with just 1 beating the EPA combined estimate of 48 mpg.
 
___I am sure more Prius II pilots will begin to achieve the magic 55 mpg number as there are quite a few knocking on the door as of this writing.
 
___Do you know of any Prius or Prius II’s that have set world records in the last 4 + years? I know of a particular Insight that did just 2 weeks ago
 
___Lastly, I have a lmpg more then double that of the Prius II’s CR average so please hold your thoughts about the Honda’s not being real hybrid’s until you see what is actually doable by those supposed non-Hybrid’s.
 
___Finally, Hybrid’s are achieving the EPA estimates posted if driven and setup properly. There is also a much higher percentage of non-Hybrid pilots that have achieved this task without all the setups and techniques used by us Hypermiler’s.
 
___Good Luck
 
___Wayne R. Gerdes

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