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Volkswagen Jetta, Biodiesel, Diesel, Sedan
#665 of 4777 Re: TDI or Prius [swimdad]
Jan 21, 2006 (4:57 pm)
Welcome to the Forum.
If it was me and my commute was that long on mostly 75 MPH highways I would go for the Jetta TDI. It is better handling not subject to cross winds as the Prius can be. Generally you have to change the tires on the Prius to get acceptable handling. The late model 2004 and newer VWs have much better reliability than a few ears back. I am going on a year with absolutely no problems with my 2005 Passat TDI. I love driving it because it is so rock solid handling. Exceptional brakes and safety come standard. The 2006 Jetta is the highest rated compact for side impact. You do not have to pay extra to get side airbags etc.
Good luck in your long drive each day.
PS get XM satellite radio, it is great.
#666 of 4777 Re: TDI or Prius [swimdad]
Jan 21, 2006 (5:30 pm)
I drive a TDI automatic, my wife drives a Civic Hybrid manual. Year and half on both. Comparisons:
MPG Civic gets 50, Jetta gets 42 (a manual would add 4mpg) She drives 50mi one-way, I do 40. 80% highway, 20% local both.
Acceleration: slow on both. TDI does better now that I have installed an Upsolute ECU
Fuel: Civic uses 87 octane - "regular". No additives. TDI uses diesel with 4-6oz of Powerservice Diesel Kleen per fill-up. Diesel is currently running $.25/gal more than regular.
Maintainance: TDI has longer maintainance intervals and no tune-ups.
Noise: TDI is noisier though no worse than a regular car.
General utility: TDI - hands down. TDI is a wagon with all the hauling capacity of one. Has trailer hitch. You can install roof racks as well. Civic has rear boot,nothing more.
#667 of 4777 Re: TDI or Prius [swimdad]
Jan 21, 2006 (7:02 pm)
The Prius is said to be more efficent in stop-n-go driving where the regenerative-braking and batteries suppliment the gasoline engine. You suggest that you would be driving "mostly interstate". Interstate driving forces the Prius to run on the gas engine contiously. (not much benifet from the batteries)
My TDI (manual xmission) gets over 55MPG on the highway. Northern Vermont to Pittsburgh on one tank of fuel...with some left over! It takes at least 40K miles to fully break in the TDI engine and realize the full MPG potential.
Keep in mind that VWs new DSG xmission is said to be as efficent as a manual. Also, as mentioned above, the TDI is most efficent when a cetane-improving additive is used. (Due to crappy fuel in North America)
One thing about the VW TDI engine (Pumpe Duse)... it REQUIRES special engine oil. I only mention this because some folks that purchase one seem to be surprised about this fact.
#668 of 4777 Fuel Door
Jan 21, 2006 (10:11 pm)
Has anyone experienced problems with to fuel door on their 2006 Jetta TDI? Mine seems to be broken and will not close properly. I think the latch has broken. I am sure the dealership will take care of the problem when I take it in next week for the 8,000km maintenance schedule. Just wondering if I am the only one out there that has had this issue.
#669 of 4777 ? Jetta Features ?
Jan 21, 2006 (10:16 pm)
Does anyone know why the Canadian version of the Jetta '06 is lacking some of the great features compared to the U.S version. IE: Rain sensing wipers, XM Radio, Home Link. Or why the Canadian version has the "telephone button" on the steeringwheel that does not do anything? Is this going to be like a "On Star" product like GM has?
Jan 21, 2006 (11:47 pm)
A few nights ago I followed a VW BORA on the way home.
If my research is correct, the VW BORA is the British version of the Jetta. Odd how that would end up in Gig Harbor, WA, USA. Nice looking car. Did not notice if it was a TDI.
#671 of 4777 Re: TDI or Prius [swimdad]
Jan 22, 2006 (6:32 am)
Obviously you're going to get some biased responses here! You've got to look at your personal situation and make some decisions.
Is reliability your #1 concern? While I've had nearly zero problems with my TDI in 140k miles, VW does not have the best reputation for reliability.
Will the dealer be doing all your service? If so, a TDI can be expensive to operate simply because many VW dealers are crooks and charge excessively. You have to be very careful what service you tell them to perform. The TDI does NOT require much maintenance, but telling a dealer to "perform the 20k mile service" may cost you a fortune. This applies to any dealer, however VW dealers charge more for labor and parts, so it's even more dangerous.
You need to drive both and compare closely. You're going to be sitting in the thing two or more hours a day. Buy the one you like the best.
IMHO if you don't really enjoy driving a VW and would be satisfied with something like a Prius, you may find a normal gas civic or even a Civic Hybrid more appropriate. You may not get 50mpg but they're much better cars than a Prius. I love the TDI engine, the way it drives, how the car handles and feels. But you need to shop for yourself. A TDI is not for everyone, and a Prius is more of a feel-good car as I don't think the price premium will be recouped compared to other options.
#672 of 4777 Re: TDI or Prius [sebring95]
Jan 22, 2006 (8:35 am)
you may find a normal gas civic or even a Civic Hybrid more appropriate.
Good advice. The Accord 4 cylinder has a lower Total Cost to Own than the Prius. The Hybrid Civic is even lower. Drive them all and pick the one you feel most comfortable driving. 70 Miles a day is a long time on the road. Comfort is a BIG factor.
#673 of 4777 Re: TDI or Prius [swimdad]
Jan 22, 2006 (8:58 am)
I know what I did with a 50 mile per day R/T commute.
Uphot: 2003 VW Jetta (Golf, New Beetle) TDI, 47-51 mpg commute traffic. 44-62 mpg range.
2004 Honda Civic VP, 37-41 mpg commute traffic and range.
You will clock (just in commute miles app) 19,000 per year.
While the Honda VP is a very capable commuter and actually a trooper in cross country, (longest trip has been 1600 miles and 750 in one day) if you plan to do other than commute long distance miles the TDI is much more fun than the Honda Civic.
#674 of 4777 TDI Diesel fuel filter
Jan 22, 2006 (12:30 pm)
I am looking for the info if someone has installed an after-market water-separator (glass) on Jetta TDI (2002) in line before the factory fuel filter. It is very hard to drain water from the factory fuel filter drain.
Also please let me know where is the fuel temperature sensor on 2002 Jetta TDI and how to get to it. Roughly how much will it cost?
Thanks and much appreciated.