Last post on Nov 17, 2013 at 8:38 AM
You are in the Volkswagen Jetta
What is this discussion about?
Volkswagen Jetta, Biodiesel, Diesel, Sedan
#4689 of 4777 Re: Long commute with stop and go traffic [jcmoore5]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jun 19, 2012 (9:25 am)
Oh we were talking about the Sportwagon at $25K ++, not the sedan.
Also we were talking about average MPG over a year's time, mixed city/hwy.
#4690 of 4777 Re: Long commute with stop and go traffic [Mr_Shiftright]
Jun 19, 2012 (11:52 am)
Very similiar vehicles, just offering my 2 cents.
#4691 of 4777 Re: Long commute with stop and go traffic [Mr_Shiftright]
Jun 19, 2012 (1:07 pm)
In almost any analysis, I start with yearly mileage expected.
UPSHOT: TDI getting 26% better fuel mileage. Rug costing $358 more per year. Over 10 years one should expect to use 970 gals MORE fuel
So with fuel $3.79 D2, Rug $3.77 2012 Passat TDI 40.2 mpg: gasser 31.9 mpg (US High Average driver 15,000 miles = 373 gals *3.79= $1,414, 470 gals * 3.77= $1,772 , 97 gals more per year RUG. (www.fueleconomy.gov)
So that things are more AVERAGED than not, I also use 100,000 miles. 100,000 miles is really what ANY car is capable of doing.
#4692 of 4777 Re: Long commute with stop and go traffic [fho2008]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jun 19, 2012 (4:51 pm)
Yep, I know. The Sportwagon is just a lot pricier for some reason. More like $26,5K with the equipment you mentioned, plus T&L of course. Probably one reason they don't sell more of them.
#4693 of 4777 Re: Long commute with stop and go traffic [Mr_Shiftright]
Jun 19, 2012 (5:22 pm)
I scratch my head a bit on why VW wants to be THE #1 world wide auto oem. It is more profitable than almost any other automaker and by a LOT. number two, VW can really over take whoever is #1 almost at will. It is almost like they are ignoring history when both #1's had any number of serious issues. It is almost like shortly after GM hit #1 it declared chap 11. Toyota when it was #1 admitted publicly that it had lost its way and for the record lost literally billions of dollars.
To think it is one of the most profitable auto companies and it only has 2.5 to 2.8% of the US markets. It will certainly be interesting to see what will happen to both diesels and the auto markets.
#4694 of 4777 Re: Long commute with stop and go traffic [Mr_Shiftright]
Jun 19, 2012 (7:33 pm)
Compare side by side and inside and out the current Americanized Jetta TDI sedan with the current Jetta Sportwagen TDI (aka Golf Estate/Golf Variant). The Sportwagen has gas struts for the hood and rear hatch, not a prop and springs. The Sportwagen has an independent rear suspension. The Sportwagen has a padded dash and padded interior door trim. The Sportwagen has 4 more more speakers. The Sportwagen has a standard driver power seat. And do not overlook that the Sportwagen has more front and rear headroom and more cargo capacity. So yes, the Sportwagen is more expensive because it has not been stripped for the American market.
#4695 of 4777 Re: Long commute with stop and go traffic [cosmo]
Jun 19, 2012 (8:28 pm)
You have hit the reason for the price difference. The Jetta Sedan is a cheaper Mexican knockoff of the Golf and Sportswagen. In the UK a Golf Estate with a few goodies and DGS sells for the equivalent of $40k US plus. That could explain the shortages of the model here. Why sell to Cheap A** Americans when the rest of the World knows a great car when they see it. We are a niche market to VW. They know where the growth is in China. We are decaying and smart money does not want to invest much here.
#4696 of 4777 Re: Long commute with stop and go traffic [cosmo]
Jun 20, 2012 (10:02 am)
Agreed mine is an '08 sedan, like I said very similiar.
#4697 of 4777 Re: Fuel Pump problems in 2012 Jetta Sportwagen TDI? [opsmaster]
Aug 19, 2012 (7:15 am)
I believe there was a rash of complaints related to failure of the high pressure fuel pump (HPFP). All resolved, as I understand it. I took delivery of my 2013 JSW TDI with manual transmission, Nav and Sunroof this past Thursday. Love it so far, including a run of 100 freeway miles yesterday where the computer said I averaged 56.3 mpg....with less than 250 miles on the odo!
Aug 23, 2012 (12:03 am)
Anybody can post big numbers that they saw on their trip computer, and while I might be inclined to take them with a grain of salt, that's a waste of salt. Only numbers I can put any stock in as "real-world" MPG are distance traveled/gallons to refill.