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Volkswagen Jetta, Biodiesel, Diesel, Sedan
#4533 of 4777 Re: jetta tdi concerns [Mr_Shiftright]
Aug 01, 2011 (8:19 am)
What you say and the reasoning are true. But buying a 1998 VW TDI at 220,000 miles, he is only looking to go 230,000 more miles !? Evidently the previous owner (s) did the first 220,000 miles leg a rate of app 15.5 to 16k per year.
Now for the first 4 years (2003 TDI), I did that 25,000 miles per year. So if I were to average it out, I am at 21,000 per year. What has practically slowed me down is another TDI addition.
Now for sure one should keep up with the scheduled maintenance. Timing belt R/R is the first major scheduled maintenance item. Filters and oil changes are probably next, with 10,000 miles tire rotations.
Unscheduled maintenance items will certainly come to the fore. That is really why a guru inspection of the TDI is pretty high on the priority list. Yes, he stands to benefit, if the presumably needed to wanted work is thrown his way.
My scheduled stuff has been TB/WP 100,000 to 120,000 miles intervals (you can stretch it to 120,000 miles but... 100,000k is the recommended interval) The 1998 has a shorter T/B interval, but the WP is not in line, so it can easily go 250,000 miles. I run 20,000 to 25,000 miles OCI's my last one was 30,700 miles. The next one I have scheduled for app 30,000 miles.
So the unscheduled stuff has been 167,000 miles (unscheduled but scheduled) smog inspection, which had been previously exempt. Had to buy tires 112,300. a coolant sensor needed R/R (the computer threw a code) the driver side low beam needed R/R. I had to buy a new front end Colgan bra, as keeping it 24/7 outside shredded the old one. Brake pads, rotors are swagged to go 280,000 miles. I am still working on lifetime G12 coolant.(9-10 years old) I also plan to change the shocks 250,000 miles on G/P. Tire wear has been dead EVEN across the width of the tread. I have also had 1 windshield replaced (small stone/s damage) This is unedited. Anyone can put it into any perspective one wants.
#4534 of 4777 Re: jetta tdi concerns [ruking1]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Aug 01, 2011 (8:29 am)
At 220,000, he may only go one more mile. Remember I'm just giving a "statistical" lifespan....it's like the statistical lifespan of people...sure, EVERYBODY knows people walking around who are well over 79 years of age, but you can't point to someone 88 and say "well, all people will live to be 88".
In the same line of reasoning, the life expectancy of a VW TDI at 220,000 is probably (statistically) a whole lot shorter than one at 120,000.
And of course, there is the entire rest of the car to worry about.
So, to me, such high mileage claims, whether they can be proven or not, are pretty much irrelevant for most people's experiences with the car.
If anything, the reputation of high-mileage cars probably causes more bad buying decisions to be made than normal.
#4535 of 4777 Re: jetta tdi concerns [Mr_Shiftright]
Aug 01, 2011 (8:38 am)
Again a very reasonable approach. However, the op is specifically speaking not of general statistics, but a SPECIFIC 1998 VW Jetta TDI, WITH 220,000 miles.
#4536 of 4777 Re: jetta tdi concerns [ruking1]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Aug 01, 2011 (9:04 am)
Well then, I would advise him to have a cylinder leakdown test performed, and then to buy the car only on the basis of a huge deduction for mileage. And I would advise him to completely disregard claims of 450,000 miles because he has as much chance of seeing that as I do of dancing for the NYC ballet. Well, okay, he has *more* of a chance, but in the 20 years it'll take him, he may no longer be able to read the odometer!
#4537 of 4777 Re: jetta tdi concerns [Mr_Shiftright]
Aug 01, 2011 (9:56 am)
If the car is not damaged, according to Edmunds it has a private sale value of $1172 with that many miles. Trade-in of only $700. So after inspection $1000 would be max in my mind. For all practical purposes it has seen better days. Yet a person might squeeze another 100k out of it without major cost. It is a crap shoot at that age and mileage. I made the mistake once of having an engine overhauled on a Dodge Van. I then decided to sell and buy another vehicle. I could not get even what I had just put into the engine.
#4538 of 4777 Re: jetta tdi concerns [gagrice]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Aug 01, 2011 (8:27 pm)
Sure with 220K on it, my advice would be "don't gamble more than you can afford to lose"---certainly $1,000 bucks is a fair gamble.
I actually had a chance to buy a '98 VW Beetle diesel, clean car, very high miles (214,000) for $1,300, but I turned it down. It started hard (never a good sign on a diesel) and they have a pretty bad reputation for the overall car I mean.
I already have an old German car to repair.
#4539 of 4777 turn signals
Aug 01, 2011 (8:46 pm)
the turn signals on my 2006 jetta tdi used to stay on for 5 or six 'clicks' when it was depressed just long enough to engage the signal (i.e. signaling for a lane change). for some reason that feature doesn't work anymore. has anyone else had this problem?
#4540 of 4777 2003 Jetta 1.8 that Needs Help Badly
Aug 08, 2011 (10:40 pm)
My daughter has 2003 VW Jetta. Since she bought the car 9 months ago it has gone through 5 different starters. I have replaced each one personally. I am not a mechanic but am mechanically enclined. There has never been any issues about changing the starter but after doing so my daughter tells me that while driving her car she always seems to smell an electircal smell (not necessarily burning but just a smell, I have smelled it also and it really does smell electrical). After each time changing the starter the car will run for a period of time and either stall out (like many others have mentioned) and then not start or just simply not start after being parked. Each time the starter has tested bad after it fails to start but that is almost always after smelling the electrical smell. I can't imagine buying 5 bad starters in a row but who knows now days. The time span may be days to weeks before an issue happens. The car also may stall out while driving and then turn itself back on or simply die and not start again.
I am wondering if there is any known issues of to much electrical power being generated within the Jetta causing the starter to short out?
Of if there is some other issue that may be causing this the starter issue?
Also what seems to cause the stalling issue, is it the MAF sensor that plays a role in the stalling?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
#4542 of 4777 Re: 2003 Jetta 1.8 that Needs Help Badly [char411998]
Aug 09, 2011 (8:07 am)
Is your daughter's the 1.8T gas engine. The diesel engine is a 1.9L. If you are giving the supplier the wrong engine number you could be getting a starter that is not adequate for the engine even if it fits. I have never heard of 5 starters going bad. Maybe worn teeth on the Flywheel are causing extra strain on the starter. So many possible issues.