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Volkswagen Jetta, Biodiesel, Diesel, Sedan
#4234 of 4777 Re: How much work is a diesel [shrifty]
Aug 02, 2010 (6:15 pm)
I have 61k on my 2009 Jetta TDI and had the same problem with the exhaust gas flapper valve. VW covered the repair (to my surprise).
I have been doing my own oil and fuel filter changes, but have had to pay $350 for the DSG service.
VW sent me a letter providing a warranty to 100k on the DSG, problem is I need to take the car past 120K.
If I invest in a timing belt at 120k and all the DSG service, what happens when the DSG implodes at 110K ?
I really like the car, but am thinking of dumping it while it's still worth something for a better high miler ( civic or corolla).
The savings in fuel make up for the expensive maintenance, however if I would have had to pay for the exhaust gas flapper it would have been by by TDI.
I drive all freeway here in Wisconsin as the car performs well in the snow and cold.
It is interesting to see another TDI in the same mileage range as mine.
Have you experienced or heard of any additional problems before 100k miles ?
#4235 of 4777 Re: TDI oil consumption [bpeebles]
Aug 03, 2010 (6:36 am)
quote: It has been documented that most of the "wear" occours during the 1st 3000 miles after an oil change
This is slightly misleading.
The wear after an oil change primarily occurs at the very first start when there could be a brief delay in oil circulation, but we're talking like 1-2 seconds before the oil pump does its thing. However, it's not very significant in comparison to a normal cold start.
I agreed with your post in general, however, and would like to add that VW uses a cartridge type of filter with a large element which enables longer change intervals.
Synthetic oil can easily go far more than 3,000 miles, I agree, but in cars with a small spin-on filter you should change every 5,000 to 7,500 at least because the filter is shot. I am sure that VW's change interval is based on how long they expect the cartridge filter to last and I am quite confident that is far beyond 3,000 miles. When you are using a longer change interval, though, it is more important to check your dipstick and top-off if necessary. Every 3,000-4,000 miles is probably about right for that. (Checking every fuel stop is from an age when cars did consume a lot of oil. )
#4236 of 4777 Re: TDI oil consumption [colin_l]
Aug 03, 2010 (5:03 pm)
(Colin_I) I am very aware of the 'dry' startup after an oil change can cause additional wear as the oil-filter fills with oil. On the TDI, this is easilly averted by PRE-FILLING the filter-housing with oil before screwing the cap on. Doesn't everyone do this anyway?
Actually, my reference to wear in the 1st 3,000 miles was in reference to folks who regularly send in their oil to be "analyzed" for wear-particals. It has been noted that on the TDI engine, the wear-partical readings tend to stay high for about 3,000 miles... then settle down to a very low level after that as long as the oil is not changed and the filter does not plug.
Changing the oil/filter has been shown to make the wear-particals spike up again for about 3,000 miles.
#4237 of 4777 Re: How much work is a diesel [50k]
Aug 03, 2010 (7:27 pm)
Nice, how did you manage to get that covered?? I have heard of a few other people with that problem, I wasn't as fortunate, quite pricey to have that fixed
I have to agree about driving in the snow, the car does quite well. Not with the original tires, but put a decent set on and it is very decent. I have lost some heat on really cold days, but keeping it at speed helps a lot.
I have had two other issues with the car, one recent. My left rear door lock has been giving me some problems, the door doesn't always want to lock. This is quite annoying as I usually find myself somewhere in Queens/Brooklyn on a weekly basis and not exactly in the nicest of areas. I would prefer to have my car locked and alarmed. Fortunately right now I have my door locked, and as long as I don't unlock it I'm ok... I just open my passenger doors manually (keep left rear closed at all times) so that I don't accidentally unlock and then run into the issue again. I'm sure it is definitely out of warranty (at 56K currently) so I don't really feel like having the expense of repairing it.
My other issue oddly enough happened at 69 miles, my check engine light came on once I got home from the dealership. Drove for another day or two, and the coil light remained light as well. At 123 miles, the car had to be towed When I called VW 24 hr hotline, the woman asked me how many miles, and when I told her she said 123 thousand? I said no.... just 123. Turns out it was a loose fuel pump relay or something to that effect and the car has run fine since.
Being my first diesel I don't have any experience beyond 56K, so it will be interesting to see what happens from here. I have the same extended warranty on the DSG as well, hope it will last longer than that!
I wonder what the trade in /resale value will be at 100K in 2011? I'm sure it doesn't look good to have a car that is 2-3 years old with that mileage on it, but I heard diesels have a higher value than their gas counterparts. I think I'm going to risk keeping the car until it falls apart, which hopefully won't happen for quite some time.
I've never been a big fan of driving a manual, but after I've driven a few manual diesels overseas this past year, I'd definitely consider one for my next vehicle in the future.
#4238 of 4777 Downhill Accent Control and Launch Control
Aug 09, 2010 (7:49 pm)
Does anyone know of a way to disable the DAC? I find it to be rather annoying when driving in a hilly area.
As for Launch Control, I read in the manual that some Jettas have it, but I don't believe it applies to the TDI. I tried it one night, and followed the steps as my friend read it off to me. The engine revved to about 2.5K and then seemed to stall... Does anyone know which models have it?
#4239 of 4777 Re: Downhill Accent Control and Launch Control [shrifty]
Aug 10, 2010 (7:24 am)
DSG Jettas have it.
#4240 of 4777 Re: Downhill Accent Control and Launch Control [fho2008]
Aug 10, 2010 (1:15 pm)
My 09 sedan has the DSG, but I assume you mean just the gas versions? Or did I misread something when attempting to use it?
#4241 of 4777 Re: How much work is a diesel [shrifty]
Aug 11, 2010 (9:22 am)
shirfty: I was in for a regular service visit in 2009 and talking to the dealer about the resale value of an '09. He told me he just gave someone $13K for an '06 TDI with 100K miles on it. I think the car was about $22K new. That's only about $3K per year depreciation, assuming tax is a sunk cost. I'm interested in the stereo upgrades in the '11 TDIs, but the electric vehicles are coming soon too .
#4242 of 4777 Re: Downhill Accent Control and Launch Control [shrifty]
Aug 11, 2010 (9:39 am)
DSG has launch control.....does it matter if its deisel or gas? Dunno....same size engine, gas or diesel, think about it, programming has to be there, and that diesel has some torque!
I rarely use it, but when I do, its fun.
#4243 of 4777 Re: How much work is a diesel [rrollntdi]
Aug 11, 2010 (9:48 am)
I think that was a great trade-in value. I tried to trade in my 2005 GMC in 2007 for a new Tahoe. I paid $26k for a loaded Sierra Hybrid. With 12k miles the dealer only offered $17k in trade. I sold it myself on Craigslist for $22,500. A car with 100k miles is at the end of the line for me.