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#41 of 3757 Re: [ruking1] by jharton Oct 09, 2004 (12:43 pm)
Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 05, 2004 10:40 am) I was wandering if it is ok to use the mobil with the vw 505.00 that is all i can find and the dealer just wants to charge an arm and a leg.
#42 of 3757 tdi oil change by jharton Oct 09, 2004 (12:44 pm)
Can anybody tell me what oil they are using for their 2004 tdi? i can only find 505 00 and it is recommended 505 01? what is working?
#43 of 3757 by ruking1 Oct 09, 2004 (1:00 pm)
Let me tell you first, the party line: VW 505.01. What this means in English is there are three so called commonly available oil in the USA retail distribution chain, which meets this standard. GC or "German" Castrol (which is available at the dealers, at or above retail prices) Motul, and ELF. If you have your 2004 TDI owners manual handy, you can read the actual verbiage, but in words to this effect, it says that if you do not use oils which comply to VW 505.01 you are in imminent danger of catastrophic engine damage, which of course will not be covered by warranty.
#44 of 3757 Re: So I bought a Jetta TDI ... [dpl] by pruzink Oct 10, 2004 (8:12 am)
Replying to: dpl (Jul 03, 2004 1:10 pm) There are only 2 oils sold in the US that meet VW's 505.1 standard (505.1) for the 2004 TDI PD. You REALLY don't want to use anything but those as you WILL void your warranty. You really should keep proof that you use the correct oil. I just bought a case of the oil (VW part # G-052-167-A2) from my local VW dealer, it was $6.50 per quart per case of 12. I also saw it sold online for $5.70 (plus S/H). Motul also sells an oild that meets this spec. I bought a case of Mobil 1 Delvac 5W-40 because I had read it was a highly recomended oil for this engine (unfortunately, not the 2004 PD version). There are tons of posts regarding this on Fred's TDI forum, after reading them, I decided that I will only use VW's sanctioned oil (it appears that it could lead to serious problems if you do not).
#45 of 3757 2005 Jetti TDI by midnightcowboy Oct 10, 2004 (4:22 pm)
I went and drove a 2005 Jetta TDI 5-speed manual with leather and it seemed very nice. It was a lot faster and powerful than I thought it was going to be. Are there any changes added for 2005 over 2004. What are the main considerations of getting a diesel?   Thanks,   MidCow Replies to this message: bpeebles (Oct 10, 2004 6:15 pm)
#46 of 3757 Re: 2005 Jetti TDI [midnightcowboy] by bpeebles Oct 10, 2004 (6:15 pm)
Replying to: midnightcowboy (Oct 10, 2004 4:22 pm) Q:What are the main considerations of getting a diesel?   PLUSses: MPG is far better than any other available vehicle on the market today. (Even the "hybreds" cannot get 52 MPG on the highway.)   Less maintenance (No ignition system to fail)   LOONNNGG LIFE! (Life expectancy of the TDI is around 500,000 miles)   TORQUE! http://michalborz.myr32.com/michal.swf   MINUSes: In cold weather, the TDI will start as well or better than any gasser. But... the fuel MUST be treated for "gelling" and the engine takes about 15 minutes to warm up and blow heat out the vents. GET HEATED SEATS!!   The VW TDI requires specific lubrication requirements. Some folks feel this is a negative thing.   Most dealership service is AWEFUL. There many stories of apparently incompetent service departments. Take the time to locate a service department that you can deal with.
#47 of 3757 Okay what is the real oil change interval ? by midnightcowboy Oct 13, 2004 (8:53 am)
The dealer (salesman) is trying to tell me it is 5,000 miles but i understand it is really 10,000 after an itial 5,000 mile change.   What kind of special lubrication requirments does the TDI have?   I asked a local auto maintenance mechanic about VW and he said they have very soft brakes and rotors. Have to replace pads and rotors every 20,000 miles. Was he just blowing smoke?   Drove another one yesterday. I like it. I just wish I knew what the reliability would really be like?   YMMV,   MidCow   P.S.- Is the 52 mpg obtainable on the new 100hp TDIs? Replies to this message: sebring95 (Oct 13, 2004 9:56 am) north street (Jan 04, 2005 7:52 am) tdi_tan (Jan 04, 2005 10:11 am) and 1 more... sebring95 (Jan 04, 2005 7:42 pm) tx_snugglebear (Jul 08, 2005 4:24 pm) bpeebles (Oct 14, 2004 5:31 pm) pusterracing (Nov 05, 2004 9:41 pm) tdi_tan (Jan 04, 2005 10:19 am)
#48 of 3757 by ruking1 Oct 13, 2004 (9:23 am)
The PD has the VW 505.01 oil spec requirement. Be that as it may, the change interval is still 10,000 miles (after the ones at 5/10k. If you have the 2003 TDI and can run a top quality oil like Amsoil, Delvac One, Mobil One Truck & SUV, Redline etc 15,000 miles oil and filter change intervals have been shown by oil analysis to be VERY conservative. My front TDI brakes at 40k look to easily go to 80-120k. Rear brakes as you have probably read, seem to go earlier and I am projecting 80k. With 40k on the clock in 19 mo, I have only changed the oil and filter, 4 times, fuel filter and rotated the tires 4 times, plus the required interval inspections. Any and all the fluids have NEVER needed to be topped. OEM "GOOD"years are on track for 80-95k.   Answer to PS. I would say yes very do able! However, I think you'd have to "soft foot" it a bit. In addition there are ways and more fuel efficient ways to drive a TDI AND also to accomplish longevity goals.   I can easily get 51 mpg if I keep in 85 mph and under. However for me, that is easier said than done; so I am content with 44-48 mpg normally. My wife in commute, (25/50 RT commute) routinely gets 48-51 and this is also during some rush hour traffic jams. Replies to this message: midnightcowboy (Oct 13, 2004 10:36 am)
#49 of 3757 Re: Okay what is the real oil change interval ? [midnightcowboy] by sebring95 Oct 13, 2004 (9:56 am)
Replying to: midnightcowboy (Oct 13, 2004 8:53 am) I replaced my rear pads at 75k miles. Fronts look like they're barely half worn. Currently at 93k miles. Very minimal problems, I actually expected more than I've had. I usually chang the oil between 10k-12k miles, running Delvac 1 synthetic. Oil analysis shows these are more than adequate invtervals. There is a ton of DIY info on the net for maintaining and operating these TDI's. So far, mine has been cheaper to maintain than any other vehicle i've owned, including Toyotas. Replies to this message: north street (Jan 04, 2005 7:52 am) tdi_tan (Jan 04, 2005 10:11 am) bpeebles (Jan 04, 2005 4:10 pm) sebring95 (Jan 04, 2005 7:42 pm) tx_snugglebear (Jul 08, 2005 4:24 pm)
#50 of 3757 by ruking1 Oct 13, 2004 (10:15 am)
So in effect you are getting two different snap shots at 40/93k.   Not too long ago at 93k you were looking to bale out and fast of ANY car with 100k!!!   I am actually looking forward to the first 250,000 miles on this VW Jetta TDI.

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