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Volkswagen Jetta, Biodiesel, Diesel, Sedan
#3643 of 4777 Water Leaks in 2004 Jetta
Nov 19, 2009 (9:49 am)
Just paid $2200 to replace my water saturated carpets - not covered by VW. Since 1998 VW has knowned that clogged drainage from the pollen filter and drainage channels from the sunroof causes severe water leaks from the front engine area onto the front carpets. But they have not changed the design, have not warned owners, have not educated service dealers, and do not routinely clean out these cloggs even though we had routine maintenance performed. Thanks VW. Major chanes are needed.
#3644 of 4777 Re: Water Leaks in 2004 Jetta [waterleaksnj]
Nov 19, 2009 (10:16 am)
I didn't know that about Jettas. There was a recall notice for this problem in Passats (it affected my '03 model). They removed two "one-way" seals from the air plenum compartment, cut the ends off the sunroof drains, and called it "good."
#3645 of 4777 06 TDIs / BRM engines / camshafts
Nov 19, 2009 (10:55 am)
my understanding was that it's just a few 06 TDIs that have the possible cam lobe weakness. maybe it's just certain VIN-range of BRM engines. There were two different TDI engines for 06 - I'm not sure which engine designator matches my 06 - but I think mine is the "newest possible 06 TDI" - not the 06 TDI that is actually a rebadged 05 TDI.
80k miles on my 06 TDI so far - no indication of cam or any other problems, aside from the suspension getting far too squishy/soft for my taste. seems like it needs struts.
#3646 of 4777 Re: Water Leaks in 2004 Jetta [waterleaksnj]
Nov 19, 2009 (1:23 pm)
Well, someone suggested that VW has "lifetime corrosion warranty" (on these pages earlier).
I guess, using that argument, you should have waited until your floor rusts away and then claim it under "lifetime corrosion" warranty... so much for that "warranty"....
#3647 of 4777 Re: what should I expect? [bpeebles]
Nov 19, 2009 (1:28 pm)
And this is also one of the reasons why Subaru did not bring their Forester Diesel to the U.S. - they don't have the proper automatic transmission.! In Europe it's already the 2nd year running but with manual transmission only!
#3648 of 4777 Re: 06 TDIs / BRM engines / camshafts [elias]
Nov 19, 2009 (1:38 pm)
Unless you pull the top off the motor, you won't notice anything on the cams. Until they start really coming apart. It's a pretty big problem on BRM engines, particulaly if you don't use the exact spec oil (which dealers aren't known to get right). My neighbor used the oil the dealer recommended...which was off just slightly. His flew apart around 120k miles. I know a couple other guys that pulled the valve cover and found the wear early and replaced the cams/lobes before they really tore everything apart. These were folks using the correct spec from day one. It's a bad design and why I won't buy an '05.5-'06 TDI used. Imagine the average dummy that doesn't even try to spec the correct oil.
#3649 of 4777 Re: 06 TDIs / BRM engines / camshafts [sebring95]
Nov 19, 2009 (1:51 pm)
no sympathy here for anyone who does not use the correct/505.01 oil, or anyone who does not verify that the dealer/mechanic has used the correct oil.
Sometimes I have insisted that the dealer show me the empty bottles from the oil they used.
But after 500k miles on 5 VW TDIs all serviced perfectly at the same dealer, I trust them!
#3650 of 4777 Re: 06 TDIs / BRM engines / camshafts [sebring95]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Nov 19, 2009 (1:57 pm)
So this is really a metallurgy problem, right--nothing to do with the fuel rail?
Soft cams are nothing new. Volvo made them out of rubber for almost 20 years (B18, B20 engines) ---but the cars ran that way anyhow---just more slowly.
#3651 of 4777 Re: 06 TDIs / BRM engines / camshafts [elias]
Nov 19, 2009 (2:38 pm)
Well, the average consumer is not used to researching these types of oil specs nor are they (and should they) be used to double-checking what a dealer uses. So in short order, these cars become big gobs of scap iron to someone that's not spending their days researching oil. I've always said, the TDI is not for the average consumer and I say they twice for the newer models. That's why they'll never be a mainstream vehicle here. I can buy a Malibu/Accord/etc. and not think about anything for 100k miles. Certainly not worrying about my engine grenading early because someone used 505.01 vs 505.xx etc.
#3652 of 4777 Re: 06 TDIs / BRM engines / camshafts [sebring95]
Nov 19, 2009 (3:57 pm)
and, after reading all these horror stories on these pages about oil and dealers, I decided to change oil myself at 7000 miles intervals (rather than 10,000) with correct oil (Full Synthetic Castrol SLX-Gold - SAE 5W-30, Professional LL03, VW 504 00/ 507 00, ACEA A3/B4, C3) and filter from tdiparts.com