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Dealer Oil Change Error Part 2, Or Vandalism? by redvw
Oct 30, 2009 (9:04 pm)
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I had my 09 TDI towed into a V.W. Dealer today for a Major Oil Leak. The details are as follows: I parked my TDI in my driveway this morning after a local drive. No mechanical problems were observed. In the afternoon I went for another drive. I barely got out of my driveway when the cars oil light started blinking, and the MFD said STOP the vehicle-low oil. I pulled back in my driveway and noticed several liters of oil on on the ground under my car.
I had my vehicle towed to the dealer by a flatbed tow truck. The service manager called me into the shop and showed me that the oil filters housing cap had been screwed loose, and placed on-top of the housing upside down. The cap had a small piece missing just before the threads begin. Since the car had 1 1/2 quarts of oil still in the oil pan the service manager did not feel that any engine damage occurred.
I explained to the manager that I had been home all day, that my car was locked, alarmed, and parked in my driveway. The manager insisted that someone did this damage to my vehicle. He could not explain how someone was able to get in the vehicle without the key, and without causing any damage or leaving any tool marks, or setting off the car alarm.
I had my vehicles 10K service done at this dealership 800 miles ago. During that service the wrong oil was used, and the vehicle was severely overfilled with oil. These problems were caught by myself, and corrected before leaving the dealership.
Is it possible that the dealer caused a third problem during my 10k service, such as not properly tightening the oil filter's cap, or was my vehicle vandalized by a Mission Impossible impersonator? Is it probable that engine damage occurred to the vehicle? If what the dealer said is true this vehicle has a severe security flaw!
I notified V.W. customer service of this event. I was told that it would be escalated to a field representative.
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THEY strike again by sellaturcica
Oct 30, 2009 (10:38 pm)
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Yes, this has been a past problem with VWs that I had hoped we had all overcome. It seems there is a race of intergalactic travelers, the Coilonions who have an inveterate fondness for the taste of VW parts- they stop at nothing to get at VWs....
 
It was thought that the Coilonions had returned home in the mid '00s, but they seem to have reared their ugly heads again. There is, of course, a small chance that the service tech at your VW dealer could have mis-threaded the oil filter cover, but this caper has the stench of the Coilonions written all over it. Tremble in fear.
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Re: Dealer Oil Change Error Part 2, Or Vandalism? [redvw] by jogousa
Oct 31, 2009 (3:21 am)
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Replying to: redvw (Oct 30, 2009 9:04 pm)

Who was the dealer? What City and/or State so that we can all be aware?
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Re: Dealer Oil Change Error Part 2, Or Vandalism? [jogousa] by redvw
Oct 31, 2009 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: jogousa (Oct 31, 2009 3:21 am)

Platinum V.W. Hicksville, NY
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Re: 2004 Bora TDI not starting [rcarr7] by jogousa
Oct 31, 2009 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: rcarr7 (Oct 28, 2009 5:43 am)

Normally, I always replace OEM battery with Optima battery. Non-liquid battery's technology is far superior to anything else although the price ($ 160.00 on average) is probably the reason why most manufacturers don't put it originally to start with.
Optima rules!
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Re: THEY strike again [sellaturcica] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 31, 2009 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: sellaturcica (Oct 30, 2009 10:38 pm)

The circumstantial evidence is strong for a dealer screw-up but proving it won't be easy given the amount of time involved since the service. If I were an imaginary judge I'd have to see pictures of this cap and how it works.
 
The dealer may be right that no engine damage has occurred but I'd carefully document everything that has transpired since the service---just in case.
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OPTIMA battery not worth the cost. by bpeebles
Oct 31, 2009 (2:57 pm)
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Replying to: jogousa (Oct 31, 2009 5:58 am)

There is no question OPTIMA battery is superiour technology to LA (lead-acid) wet-cell. The Odyssey battery is even better than OPTIMA.
 
These batteries claim 12-year lifespans or you can get the same amount of starting-power for 1/2 the weight..... some people NEED these features.
 
HOWEVER: Unless you need the features offered by these advanced technologies, your $$ is better spent elsewhere.
 
A standard LA (lead-acid) battery costs a lot less than the above-mentioned ones.. In fact, you could replace a standard LA battery several times for the same price of the fancy ones.
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Re: OPTIMA battery not worth the cost. [bpeebles] by jogousa
Nov 01, 2009 (1:04 am)
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Replying to: bpeebles (Oct 31, 2009 2:57 pm)

Yeah, agreed .... there are Odysseys but there are also Kinetiks, Trojans, WestCos and others, just to name a few.
 
But I like the spiral/gel/AGM (Absorbent Gas Mat) technology that traps and re-cycles gas, to be the best for my application and climate location, not to mention the fact that these don't have to be mounted in upside position, do not cause corrosion, they are much lighter, etc.
 
Yes, they are pricey but they are truly maintenance free and last much longer (as you have mentioned) than standard lead acid batteries. It's money worth spent for a long time worry free operation. I have had some of those in my previous vehicles as well as marine applications and found Optimas to be the best (last Optima I put was in my son's 05 Subaru Forester not long ago....).
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Re: OPTIMA battery not worth the cost. [jogousa] by m6user
Nov 01, 2009 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: jogousa (Nov 01, 2009 1:04 am)

I've never had a lead acid battery last less than 5 years. Since a good l/a cost less than $100 usually and I never know if I will keep a car more than 4-5 years (after I replace the battery) I think it would it is overkill to spend $200+.
 
The batteries I buy are pretty much worry and maint free for the life of the battery. I don't think the average driver really needs one unless they live in Death Valley or Alaska possibly or they have some very special application. Like when is the last time I had to install a battery on it's side or upside down or worried that it may when 10lbs more than some other battery??? Never in over 40 vehicles owned.
 
Sorry, I guess we are getting off topic somewhat. Although I guess batteries apply to all vehicles, this is probably not the thread for this discussion.
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Re: OPTIMA battery not worth the cost. [m6user] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 01, 2009 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Nov 01, 2009 9:28 am)

Batteries on diesel cars have to be stronger than regular car batteries. That's something to consider when you buy a replacement.

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