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Volkswagen Jetta, Biodiesel, Diesel, Sedan
#3414 of 4747 Re: VW TDIs Ground Clearance [pat]
Sep 29, 2009 (5:37 pm)
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OK, thanks Pat, here's a shot of my 2006 Texas TDI waiting to make the 2000 mile trip home.
I never tried posting the photo link first and adding the text after, but this way does works...great stuff. I was putting the "Embed Image" link after the text and all I ever got was the link, no pix.
That seems to be the fix, thanks again, I hope from now on all Jetta posters will take advantage of the photo system.....
Embed image link FIRST, text after.
Don't mind me I always seem to do things Back sswards
#3415 of 4747 Re: R&T Longterm Test [Mr_Shiftright]
Sep 29, 2009 (7:12 pm)
The buyers though, are IMO completely different animals--so maybe they don't compete as much as I think they would.
I very much agree. Except for fuel efficiency, they are about as similar in their appeal as Goldwing compared to a moped.
TDI and Prius are fierce competitors at the forum among their fans and detractors though.
I'm not too enthusiastic about the new Jetta that will arrive once the Chattanooga plant begins production. Bigger, softer handling and more cupholders are not my cup of tea.
#3416 of 4747 Re: R&T Longterm Test [moparbad]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 29, 2009 (7:17 pm)
The joke used to be in the 80s that Volvos were for people who hated cars---maybe the Prius is the modern substitute? I mean, an anti-car ideology can be just as passionate as that of the auto enthusiast.
Or, perhaps the Prius just appeals more to the gadget-freak rather than the car lover. You know, you get your Power Book, your iPhone and your Prius.
Prius also had a "touring edition" but I don't know as many people even knew what it was.
I would never own one, but the Prius impressed me nonetheless as a technology---as a car, it kind of reminded me of driving an old Citroen. Not bad, just.....weird....
I want a car that drives like a German car, is reliable as a Japanese car, and costs as little as an American car.
#3417 of 4747 Re: R&T Longterm Test [Mr_Shiftright]
Sep 29, 2009 (9:43 pm)
"I want a car that drives like a German car, is reliable as a Japanese car, and costs as little as an American car."
I think VW might have the car for you in a couple of years, built in the USA for the 'American Market' (what ever their consultants tell them that is)
Not sure which Japanese car you think is so reliable, but I actually hope they are much more reliable..
#3418 of 4747 Re: R&T Longterm Test [Mr_Shiftright]
Sep 30, 2009 (6:59 am)
Off the record, my son (who works for Toyota National HQ in Torrance CA) is telling me that if anyone wants a Prius, get the 2010 model. Anything prior that he does not recommend.
#3419 of 4747 Re: R&T Longterm Test [jogousa]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 30, 2009 (8:12 am)
Gee everybody I know who owns a Prius (thick as flies in California) has had near perfection in terms of reliability. VW should be so fortunate to enjoy this type of feedback out on the street.
I'm not sure what VW means by "the American market" but it sounds like softy-softy suspension to me, and I don't like the sound of that at all. Even Benz has a few models that seem a bit "cushy" to me these days.
Hard to believe it's been 33 years since the first GTI made driving little cars fun again. I hear there are rumors of a GTI version of the TDI.
VW should be careful. Without that great "driving experience", they'd be in deep doo-doo, I think. It's their strongest suit--along with styling of course.
#3420 of 4747 Re: R&T Longterm Test [Mr_Shiftright]
Sep 30, 2009 (8:24 am)
YEP - softy softy is the key word. My close friend, who is an engineer and designer at BMW in Munich, confirmed this as well. American public, as a whole (he claims) likes soft plush suspensions (numerous car clinics when those cars are being designed so that the design engineers satisfy the marketing needs). On the other hand (he claims) with "soft" suspension the car "sticks" better to the road at high speeds. However, emergency manouvers suffer. Well, it may be true in EU where roads are flat a smooth...
By the way the main flaw in earlier Priuses was the interior.
Otherwise the rest is about identical with minor improvements. Overall though, it's an "old" technology (more than 10 years now) and there isn't much on the horizon for any new technology. The problem is also what to do with those used lithium energy cells when the life-cycle of this car is over....they (batteries) are worse than any type of emission on those landfills unless, of course, we export those to China, where they came from (we already do it with so-called "re-cycled" computers, screens, cathode tubes, etc.) that end up in landfills over there.
#3421 of 4747 Re: R&T Longterm Test [jogousa]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 30, 2009 (8:33 am)
We're Americans. We don't think 10 years out
#3422 of 4747 Re: R&T Longterm Test [Mr_Shiftright]
Sep 30, 2009 (8:45 am)
tell me about it....how true and sad!
#3423 of 4747 Re: R&T Longterm Test [jogousa]
Sep 30, 2009 (12:10 pm)
I believe the 2010 Prius is still using a "lighter but more powerful nickel-metal hydride battery pack", but it's still Nickel based and not Lithium. Recycling the battery is still energy intensive, but the "Greenies" that drive them don't seem to care.
I test drove a '09. It was very different. Kind of like operating a driving appliance , not a car. The Jetta TDI is a much more pleasing experience for people that like sports cars and good handling .