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You are in the Volkswagen Jetta
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Volkswagen Jetta, Biodiesel, Diesel, Sedan
#3370 of 4777 Re: VW TDIs [dino001]
Sep 23, 2009 (12:41 pm)
...Are these claims from the same company that anounced this car with "over 55 mpg" just a few months before EPA gave it whoping 41 mpg highway?"...
If you are talking about 2009 VW Jetta TDI, VW NEVER had claimed over 55 mpg EPA . EPA DSG is 29c/40h
the very next paragraph that you must have ignored
..."None of these facts are advertised. Indeed the facts are a better kept secret than.... STATE secrets."...
#3371 of 4777 Re: VW TDIs [ruking1]
Sep 23, 2009 (12:46 pm)
Well, OK then.
BTW, I'm not really against diesels per say. I just don't see them being a cure for cancer, that's all.
#3372 of 4777 Re: VW TDIs [dino001]
Sep 23, 2009 (12:48 pm)
Didn't you say WAR and PEACE?
#3373 of 4777 Re: VW TDIs [dino001]
Sep 23, 2009 (5:09 pm)
Just for fun, I was able to get a bit north of 53 MPG with my 09 TDI. Not over 55, but close enough. Didn't care for the driving experience (or lack of), so I'm content with mid-40s. Not sure how the EPA came up with the 41 MPG highway rating, I guess you really need to take the phrase "Drive it like you stole it" to heart.
#3374 of 4777 Re: When is TDI worth while? [colloquor]
Sep 23, 2009 (5:15 pm)
My son went through essentially the same decision process as you, a Mazda3 hatch or a Jetta TDI. He bought the Mazda3 Grand Touring hatch. Although German cars, as most European cars, handle very well, the Mazda3 Grand Touring is absolutely no slouch in this department. In fact, it is very, very good.
Beyond the fuel economy differential, I wonder which of the two is more reliable up to say, 150K? So far, my son's Mazda3 has been bulletproof in the reliability department.
Thanks. I agree the Mazda handling was unexpectedly good. I'm just trying to figure out which may be most reliable up to 10yrs/100k. At the 10 yr/100k mark, the TDI would make up the initial cost difference but I'm starting to lean more towards a more inexpensive gasser...the Mazda maybe or the Jetta S. I also test drove a Ford Fusion 4 cyl tonight, but the automatic in it was less than impressive.
#3375 of 4777 Re: When is TDI worth while? [texasnightowl]
Sep 23, 2009 (5:23 pm)
Given what you said , miles per year driven and the price differences, it would seem that the Mazda 3 GT is the ticket.
But on the other hand, perhaps I am missing something. Mazda 3 GT has a MSRP of 22,000 INVOICE of 20,599 Jetta TDI has a MSRP of 22,660, INVOICE of 21370. So the range of additional cost is 660 MSRP to $771 INVOICE. So even invoice of 771, your BE on fuel is app 2.7 years 10,500 per year
If you like the Jetta TDI, ask them to match the price you can get the MAZDA GT If not, still MAZDA GT. One danger with the Mazda 3 GT: the do dah list is LONG !!!!! .
#3376 of 4777 Re: When is TDI worth while? [ruking1]
Sep 23, 2009 (5:33 pm)
Yeah, it might be...I'm going to try to swing by the dealer and drive the MT version tomorrow.
#3377 of 4777 Do You Think.....
Sep 24, 2009 (7:18 am)
The six speed tranny is out. I'm trying out cars and the GTI was a DSG whatever the hell that is and the paddle shifter drove me nuts,.the price $30304.00Also, I tried a six speed and it drove no different than the 09 but was $$25k same model both loaded.
Then I went to Mazda and their inventory was low and I mean low.I tried a GT HB w/ all the bells and Whistles. It was $ 24k and A/T I didn't like it. I was looking for a 6 spd or 5 spd Sport w/sunroof. The sales person said the auto tranny is controlled by a computer and gives the same or better milage. (is that true)
Lastly diesal fuel in my state has a 30 cent tax on it and cost $. 75 to a dollar more than gas.The dealer wouldn't tell me the price of a TDI HB and when they would be in. I figure 24k. No one seems to want to deal,so I don't feel sorry for the car dealers.
I looked at the Frankfoot Auto Show and VW wants us to write our congreesman (person) to bring the Golf R over here. I like the Polo but it's not coming and the Fiesta 7 passenger is not slated for USA. We get the dumb down cars .
#3378 of 4777 Why put Ethynol in Gas
Sep 24, 2009 (7:32 am)
Ethynol is said to cause more pollution and condensation in your tank and cause evaporation of gas in tank.
CA just reported this in the newspapers. My state adopts all CA standards. What is diesal fuel just Bunker c the same as you use to heat your house? It's dyed red for heating to make sure your not being road taxed .
This country is going nuts . I had to pay tax on an order of keroscene for my work shop. I asked why and they told me I didn't have a toilet or bedroom.
#3379 of 4777 Re: VW TDIs [Mr_Shiftright]
Sep 24, 2009 (8:46 am)
I agree with Shifty I only have 14 years looking at cars now, oh god that sounds bad when I am not even 30 yet, but I have never seen a 400,000 plus mile regular passenger car. In heavy duty and medium duty diesel trucks sure. I think we had a few Package Vans at UPS that were in that range but they were very tired lots of stop and go for those vehicles. Obviously the big feeder trucks hit a million miles on a regular basis.
I have a couple of customers with 300,000 plus mile Volvos and one or two with Saabs and none of them have had a complete engine or transmission overhaul. I had one customer with a documented 304,000 mile Classic Range Rover 1987 or 1988 I forget but it completely rusted away with holes the size of my fist in the frame. Even the chrome bumpers and portions of the aluminum body were corroding to nothingness. Twenty years of new england winters and poorly protected British steel did that.