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Re: Volkswagen to Acquire Porsche [gagrice] by ruking1
Jul 19, 2009 (8:15 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 19, 2009 7:54 pm)

Yes to VW's credit they have been and remain in the diesel market in the US. Some would say they are the market makers in the US diesel market.
 
But the numbers in this example would be telling.
 
You have a choice of selling 100 (TDI) vehicles. You have to go thru a costly and lengthy certification procedure and put on an extra 3,500 compliance system and it might take you some time to sell the 100 vehicles in the US markets.
 
Now in China, way faster and less costly certification procedure and not having to put the extra 3,500 in the compliance system and they are literally sold before shipment !!. What would be YOUR choice !!??
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Porsche VW by elias
Jul 20, 2009 (11:19 am)
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Cool. I'll take a 911 TDI or Cayman TDI please, manual transmission.
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Re: Porsche VW [elias] by ruking1
Jul 20, 2009 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: elias (Jul 20, 2009 11:19 am)

Probably a stair step would be the new VW sports TDI. It seems to look like a redesigned Audi TT. I read somewhere it is est to del 45 mpg on D2.
 
The 911 Carrerra S already has 385 hp and 310 #ft !! Using the same ratios as the VW Jetta TDI that would make a 911 TDI 266 hp and 448 # ft !!?? Or 45% more # ft !!!
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Who is getting close to TMV on TDI Loyal Edition? by natureboy2
Jul 24, 2009 (12:41 pm)
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Has anybody been able to find a dealer in the MI or Chicago area that is willing to sell a Jetta TDI Loyal Edition w/ a few options at near TMV value? I have yet to find one. They are not even budging on the 2010 models coming end of August. They are willing to take your money to hold, but no promisse on the final car price. This is insane.... are these SO HOT that every deal can just be all Omnipotent ?. If that is the case, then it's not something I want - no smart buyer should bow down to being ripped off and making these greedy dealers more money. Any good leads and advice is greatly appreciated. Willing to travel a bit to find the deal - even will go to same sales person and recommend you as well.
Thanks a mil.
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Re: Who is getting close to TMV on TDI Loyal Edition? [natureboy2] by sebring95
Jul 25, 2009 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: natureboy2 (Jul 24, 2009 12:41 pm)

I'm not sure what TMV you're looking for, but there ARE dealers that are bargaining. One around Philly is currently selling for $700 under invoice for July....so that would be a TDI DSG with no other options for around $22,500.
 
Inventory is dropping fast on the 2009 and there's still awhile before 2010's show up so VW has pulled back on incentives at their big dealers (the small dealers don't get much if anything regardless. May was the best month to buy a TDI. They had dealer incentive of $1,500 in May, then they dropped to to $1,000 in June, and now it's $500. No idea what August will bring. It might go back up after the 2010's arrive...but there most likely won't be much of anything to pick from. From what I've seen/heard the manual transmissions are getting really hard to find. Pricing isn't out yet on the 2010 models....so it would be hard to deal on a precise number but I would think they would agree to $XX discount. The dealer in Philly is taking orders at $200 under invoice....whatever that works out to be.
 
I was very close to buying from this dealer in Philly back in June but I couldn't get one exactly the way I wanted....and I'm picky. Now if someone could use the cash4clunkers program, plus the $1,300 tax credit, plus buy at under invoice....that would be a terrific deal.
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Re: Who is getting close to TMV on TDI Loyal Edition? [sebring95] by rremer1
Jul 26, 2009 (5:21 am)
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Replying to: sebring95 (Jul 25, 2009 1:23 pm)

Natureboy2, would love to know which Philly dealer you're talking about. I am in Philly and have been looking for a TDI DSG wagon, but haven't found any in stock. Also, if I wait till 2010 models come out, is it best to just wait -- or to put $ money down? Thanks!
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Re: Who is getting close to TMV on TDI Loyal Edition? [rremer1] by sebring95
Jul 26, 2009 (5:39 am)
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Replying to: rremer1 (Jul 26, 2009 5:21 am)

I assume you were directing that to me. It's VW of Langhorne and the salesman's name is Chris. He has advertised these deals on a TDI specific webpage and I know a couple of the folks that have bought from him. I dealt with him searching for a TDI in June and can't say anything bad about him except he's VERY busy. I recall getting emails from him at 2am.
 
From what I've seen on the other site, he is also out of wagons and says he needs about 100 days to place the order. I'm betting he is getting plenty of allocation on these considering the number of TDI's they move. I do not believe they've been offering nearly as good of a deal on the JSW's though....probably because demand has been so strong on them. Sedans had the factory incentives but not the wagons. The last deal I seen him advertise on a 2009 JSW was $600 over invoice. Not sure what he's doing on 2010 orders.
 
I'm not sure what I would do if I was shopping a TDI wagon. They seem to go pretty quick and you'll not likely get that great of a deal. If you're specific about what you want, I'd say pay the deposit and wait on it just to make sure.
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Re: Who is getting close to TMV on TDI Loyal Edition? [sebring95] by gagrice
Jul 26, 2009 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: sebring95 (Jul 26, 2009 5:39 am)

This seems like 1979 all over again. I wanted a diesel Dasher Wagon in 1979. The wait was a year. I needed a car for my 150 mile daily round trip. So I bought an Accord hatch. What a POC that was. People talk about how bad VW's are and how great Honda's are. I don't believe the Dasher diesel could be any worse than that Accord.
 
A friend put a deposit on a diesel Dasher and when the year was up he did not need the car. The dealer gave him $500 for his interest in the car. They were bringing big premiums around 1980.
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Re: Who is getting close to TMV on TDI Loyal Edition? [sebring95] by ruking1
Jul 26, 2009 (7:30 am)
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Replying to: sebring95 (Jul 26, 2009 5:39 am)

This is probably old news, but VW might have locked down the admission gates too tightly on the 2009 JSW model. I have read that fully 80% of the JSW production is turning out to be diesel. In hind sight, it is fairly obvious they could have almost doubled the production to start. Or, if they wanted to set even stricter limits to sell closer to 100% diesel.
 
Again they are on track to overall sell 30% diesel with the initial 2009 target of 25%. As I have not read what the initial target was for the JSW other than they would produce far less of them, I am assuming 25% diesel was also the initial target.
 
I am sure that EVERY car maker would like to have problems of this nature. I think it is especially true inview of the almost D..... like economy.
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Re: Who is getting close to TMV on TDI Loyal Edition? [gagrice] by gfr1
Jul 26, 2009 (8:42 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 26, 2009 7:04 am)

I had a 1979 Dasher Hatchback Diesel when I lived in Riverside CA in the days of the long gas lines. One of the most satisfying cars I ever owned. Not best, or exhillerating, but satisfying. I had a replacement 29 gal. aluminum fuel tank built to replace the original. My career was flying jets ( civil & Mil.), so range is my thing. It would cover 1200 miles, routinely, on trips, with reserves. Never had maintenance, actually, other than tires and oil/filter change twice a year. Also, I never waited on a fuel pump when refills were needed every four to six weeks, or so. I sold it at 105,000 miles. GR

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