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Re: Loss of Power but no MIL [Mr_Shiftright] by ruking1
Jul 15, 2009 (7:39 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 15, 2009 7:31 am)

For sure, I would/would have, if that problem had happened to me. While the issue does have its technical issues (500 ppm to 140 ppm), the new ULSD 15-5 ppm (since Oct 2006) should register an almost total drop in this issue due to LSD. The additional issue is of course not too many vehicles (VW TDI's, aka passenger diesel fleets) have app 100,000 miles since that time
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This probably poses.... by ruking1
Jul 17, 2009 (4:10 pm)
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more questions that it answers about the TDI's place in all of this.Mexico: VW Bets a Billion
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Re: This probably poses.... [ruking1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jul 17, 2009 (4:55 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 17, 2009 4:10 pm)

Looks like a "small car bet", same as the Fiat tutorial for Chrysler. Unfortunately for Chrysler, VW already knows how to build a small car.
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Re: This probably poses.... [Mr_Shiftright] by ruking1
Jul 17, 2009 (9:43 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 17, 2009 4:55 pm)

Yes I guess I was just trying to resolve the 2009 Jetta results with what will happen in the future. Jetta competes with the Civic's, Corolla's, Altima's AND the Accords, Camry's, Maxima's etc. While I know the Jetta is considered a compact car, I really consider the Fit and Civic, etc., more of the compact car.
 
I think if I had to replace the Civic, I would probably lean toward the Polo. 61 mpg diesel, that is reason enough to zip around with. It would make the Civic 38-42 mpg look like a gas guzzler.
 
You are absolutely correct, VW already does know how to make small cars.
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Re: This probably poses.... [ruking1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jul 18, 2009 (9:26 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 17, 2009 9:43 pm)

VW has the Japanese beat all ways to Sunday except reliability issues. I wish they'd put extreme effort these next 5 years in clearing up their reputation before it's too late.
Reading the Jetta forums for older models is sometimes like listening to a report of the ravaging of Europe by the Mongols. It's interesting that the TDI enjoys a better reputation isn't it? Makes you realize that most of the problems are with the gas engines---timing belts, engine sludge, ignition coils, cam cover leakage, (V6) etc. Chronic issues that don't seem to go away.
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Re: This probably poses.... [Mr_Shiftright] by ruking1
Jul 18, 2009 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 18, 2009 9:26 am)

Anyone who thinks the VW does not have a higher "RATE/INCIDENCE" of "issues" might be in denial. One essentially doesn't want to GET the queen in...THAT link title game.
 
Essentially that was the decision fog I walked through with the 2003 Jetta TDI. So I looked at the issues common to both and concluded it was a fairly decently made machine, aka, I was willing to take the risk.Or, at the very worst, able to be mitigated.
 
I am not sure why they have the engineering, reliability, durability problems they do with their GASSER engines !!! ??? Indeed in a bit of heresy, I would not get a current VW with a gasser engine!!?? Suffice to say while the TDI has its own peculiar issues, it has been a trooper.
 
In addition, I did not use a VW spec oil (after the break in factory fill 5,000 miles) & have run 25,000 OCI's since. At 119,000 miles, the thing has literally been trouble free. Fuel mileage is 48-52 in a point a to b commute. I can get 44 to 62 mpg will. This thing was made to cruise lower autobahn speeds. As you know, we do not observe autobahn speeds past 70 mph and 80 mph in TX: God Bless TX. Oil consumption has been at 1/4 to 1/2 qt (8 oz to 16 oz) per 20,000 miles.
 
As a side bar, the 2009 TDI has been flawless, EVEN with the DSG. Oil consumption is NIL/nada/ZIP, but we are only at 8,000 miles.
 
I can make a (university engineering ) joke here, but it might be lost on most folks and offensive to others.
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How does this intergrate? by ruking1
Jul 18, 2009 (11:55 am)
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Report: Porsche near deal with VW
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Re: How does this intergrate? [ruking1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jul 18, 2009 (2:50 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 18, 2009 11:55 am)

I think it would help VW and hurt Porsche in the long run.
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Re: How does this intergrate? [Mr_Shiftright] by ruking1
Jul 18, 2009 (6:18 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 18, 2009 2:50 pm)

From what I read, I am not sure if it was/were the 2 families design/s to own VW and Porsche using the credit snafu to make a move on VW and/or Porsche and get the (lower saxony) tax payers and the Qatar invester to pony up, or they just plainover extended and got caught in a wringer. Indeed it could be... all of the above and more, but in a different real time order.
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Volkswagen to Acquire Porsche by donthegreek
Jul 19, 2009 (7:02 pm)
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Volkswagen to Acquire Porsche
Volkswagen is planning to purchase all of sports carmaker Porsche, which has run into massive financial problems linked to its overly ambitious plan to take control of VW. The attempted takeover, which had been financed using loans, ultimately failed because of the credit crunch and ensuing liquidity problems that almost saw Porsche go bankrupt.
 
SPIEGEL has obtained information that Volkswagen is planning a complete takeover of beleaguered sports carmaker Porsche in a series of two transactions. The company is planning the imminent purchase of 50 percent of Porsche shares and will purchase the remaining shares in the Stuttgart, Germany-based automobile manufacturer in a second step. Once completed, Porsche will become the 10th brand in the stable of Volkswagen, the world's largest carmaker.
 
 DPA
Porsche headquarters in Stuttgart: VW has won the power struggle between the two companies.
VW's move to acquire Porsche follows a power struggle between the companies. Porsche had sought to buy VW through complicated loan transactions that collapsed when the sports carmaker's liquidity dried up as a result of the credit crunch. It has already been reported that Wolfsburg-based VW would purchase 49.9 percent of Porsche, but SPIEGEL has learned it is now planning a complete acquisition in a second purchase of shares.
 
The deal envisions a payout to Porsche Automobil Holding of €8 billion ($11.3 billion), enabling it to pay off the bulk of its crippling debts. VW is also considering acquiring Porsche's Salzburg-based network of dealerships from its family owners, a move that could raise an addition €3 billion for Porsche.
 
Under the deal, the Porsche and Piëch families, Porsche's shareholders, would obtain 50 percent of the shares in the merged VW-Porsche company. The western German state of Lower Saxony would maintain its 20 percent holding in the company and the door would be open for the emirate of Qatar to purchase between 14.9 percent and 19.9 percent of the company's shares.
 
German news agency DPA reported Friday that the Porsche and Piëch families had agreed to accept the Volkswagen deal. Reuters also reported the deal was now backed by Porsche supervisory board chairman Wolfgang Porsche, who had fought to maintain Porsche's independence from VW.
 
SPIEGEL also reported on Friday that Porsche's current CEO, Wendelin Wiedeking, would step down and that the families had agreed to replace him with Porsche production chief Michael Macht.
 
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 Wolfgang Porsche denied the report on Friday evening, rebuffing "speculation" that Macht would succeed Wiedeking. Wiedeking, he said, remained head of Porsche AG and Porsche Holding. Deputy chairman of the board and works council chief Uwe Hück also defended Wiedeking. "Wiedeking is chairman of the board and he will continue to be so," he said.
 
Nevertheless, Wiedeking appears to be preparing for his exit. DPA reported this week that he has hired prominent labor lawyer Jobst-Hubertus Bauer to help him negotiate a severance package, a development also reported by the Financial Times Deutschland newspaper.
 
Wiedeking has reportedly been a client of Bauer's for some time now. The labor lawyer has negotiated golden handshakes for several top managers totaling millions in recent years. It is reported that Wiedeking could be up for a deal worth more than €100 million.
 
dsl/spiegel -- with wire reports

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