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Re: Extended Warranty Price & Cost info for Jetta 2009 TDI? [bradnjess]
by 2newonesfor09
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Jun 30, 2009 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: bradnjess (Jun 29, 2009 8:32 pm)
If you are in a state that can get insurance with GEICO, they offer for $15 every 6 months mechanical repairs with a $250.00 deductable for all car repairs for 7 years which works out to $210.00.
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- #3104 of 3707
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Re: new car purchase [Mr_Shiftright]
by ruking1
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Jun 30, 2009 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 29, 2009 7:02 am)
..."There will always be people on either side of the bell curve, but I think you are the exception on the positive side, not the rule, from what I'm reading. Still no complaints about EPA stats on the TDI. I feel confident I could also best the EPA scores."..
EPA 29/40 mpg.
The 09 Jetta TDI, DSG has 7.5k miles and in the spirit of the break in mode, I did a run this morning to the University of California Davis (and pm return) 200 miles R/T . On the way up, I ran into commute stop and go situations ( various area's familar to highway 680/80 corridor commuters, bumper to bumper 20 min delay). Even did my OCD exercise and used the sequential shifting pattern for some pretty zippy acceleration and deceleration (to vary the revs, loading and put the turbo on boost) . Got some cheap diesel (around here anyway 2.73) on the return trip and the thing posted app 42 mpg (42.2) . Also had the A/C on with fan set at #1 and or #2 (it was a cool 94 degrees)
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- #3105 of 3707
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Re: new car purchase [jogousa] Nontintsense
by moparbad
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Jun 30, 2009 (2:47 pm)
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Replying to: jogousa (Jun 27, 2009 12:41 pm)
In Southern California cars automatically come with dark windows - dealers do not have to "tint" them.
Cars in Southern California come with dark glass windows from the dealer and from the manufacturer (as long as cars are equipped with A/C ). Those, that do not have A/C come with clear untinted glass.
Not correct. All VW Jetta sold in U.S. have tinted glass, and all have the save degree of tint. No difference in the glass of Jetta's sold in Iowa or San Diego.
AC or no AC, the glass is tinted.
Southern CA cars do not automatically come with darker tinted windows from the manufacturer. It is not even an option to obtain different tinted glass from the manufacturer.
If the tint is darker, it is AFTERMARKET.
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- #3106 of 3707
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Re: new car purchase [jim1977]
by goldgary1
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Jul 01, 2009 (4:40 am)
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Replying to: jim1977 (Jun 30, 2009 9:07 am)
Re: TDI chain for 2010. I heard it from service mgr. at dealership, then I also found it stated on the net somewhere that it as to have a chain. I don't remember where. Thats all I know. Take it for what its worth.
Gary
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- #3107 of 3707
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2009 TDI engine?
by ruking1
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Jul 01, 2009 (6:59 am)
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2.0 TDI CR 103-147kW
Configuration
inline four cylinder 1,968 cubic centimetres (120.1 cu in) Turbocharged Direct Injection (TDI), Bore x Stroke (mm): 81 x 92.5
Head
four valves per cylinder, DOHC, compression ratio: 18:1 (103kW), 16.5:1 (125kW)
Fuel system
Common Rail (CR) multi-point direct injection (DI) with 8 nozzle output, piezo elements, pressure up to 1850 bar
Aspiration
turbocharger, intercooler, water cooled exhaust gas recirculation (EGR)
Aspiration (200hp)
twin registered turbochargers with different diameters
Engine management
Bosch EDC 17
Exhaust
diesel particulate filter (DPF)
Output
103 kilowatts (140 PS; 138 bhp) 3,750-4,150 rpm, 320 newton metres (236 ft·lbf) 1,750-2,800rpm
105 kilowatts (143 PS; 141 bhp) 4,200 rpm, 320 newton metres (236 ft·lbf) 1,750-2,500rpm
125 kilowatts (170 PS; 168 bhp) 4,200 rpm, 350 newton metres (258 ft·lbf) 1,750-2,500rpm
147 kilowatts (200 PS; 197 bhp) 4,400 rpm, 400 newton metres (295 ft·lbf) 2,500-3,000rpm
Applications
VW Tiguan, Audi A4 B8, SEAT Exeo, Skoda Superb Mk2 (125 kW), VW Jetta TDI Clean Diesel (140 hp), SEAT Leon Mk2, SEAT Altea, SEAT Toledo Mk3, Škoda Octavia 1Z (125 kW), VW Passat CC
Interesting line up of VW diesel engines link title
Believe it or not, here in lies the secret ..." 1,750-2,500rpm "...
Max torque comes on at 1,750 and maxs out 2,500 rpms. Sure you can rev it out to redline 5,100 rpms. Much over 3,500 rpms and you really are just in the italian tune mode (no real effect) Keep it closer to, or slightly above 2,500 and the turbo is on boost. This thing in the correct gear will run all day/night xxx digit speeds and be happy as a clam. 09 oil consumption is still unknown (for me). The 03 TDI however consumes .25 to .5 qt in app 20,000 to 25,000 miles.
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- #3108 of 3707
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Re: 2009 TDI engine? [ruking1]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Jul 01, 2009 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am)
That's why I keep telling people not to rev their diesels up too high. That's not where the real power is.
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- #3109 of 3707
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Re: 2009 TDI engine? [Mr_Shiftright]
by ruking1
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Jul 01, 2009 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 01, 2009 7:10 am)
Indeed. For some funny reason, most folks (even knowledge able car TESTERS) like to first drive a VW Jetta TDI like it is a whinny Honda begging for higher rev ving, i.e., 6,100 rpms . Max torque 110 # ft 4,500 rpms (?) (no disrepect intended or implied I own a whinny Honda and guess how I drive it?..... and it gets 38-42 mpg in daily commuting !!??
Predictably they are usually dissapointed.
Again off topic but the real secret to best mpg in the Civic is again to drive the torque. (aka with the 4500/6100 rpms ratio or 75% in mind.
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- #3110 of 3707
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Re: 2009 TDI engine? [ruking1]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Jul 01, 2009 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 01, 2009 7:17 am)
Which is also why I often recommend a diesel with an automatic or manu-matic transmission in passenger cars , especially the heavier ones. The automatic might be better at picking the "sweet spot" for the power band.
Also I think it's kind of risky to rev a little diesel right up to redline all the time. We are talking about very high compression engines, here, and I do worry about the ability of the cylinder head itself and the head bolts and gasket to take all that day after day (comment is not specific to VW).
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- #3111 of 3707
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Re: 2009 TDI engine? [Mr_Shiftright]
by ruking1
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Jul 01, 2009 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 01, 2009 7:28 am)
While I understand it, it still amazes me the 09 TDI gets 39-45 mpg during break in with 140 hp and 236 # ft of torque weighing 770#'s more than the Civic's 2,515 #'s with 115 hp 6,100 rpms and 110 # ft of torque 4500 rpms, 36-42 mpg. Off the charts in comparison is the 03 TDI 90 hp/155# ft 2,950#'s or 435 #'s more while getting 48-52 mpg during the same point a to b commute.
In addition, there are almost no comparisons any altitude (practically 2,000 to 8,000 ft).
I guess one day I need to go back up to Pikes Peak (14,100 ft)
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Surprised? Likewise !
by ruking1
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Jul 01, 2009 (8:47 am)
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..."Compact sporty car: Scion tC
2nd place: Volkswagen TDI
Only two vehicles are listed here because they were the only ones to score above average in this category."...
link title
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