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Re: new car purchase [mikemartin] by jim1977
Jun 29, 2009 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: mikemartin (Jun 27, 2009 7:10 pm)

Now you have me worried. I don' want to add a rumor onto a rumor, since we don't really know if they will go the urea system route in 2010, but I also find it hard to believe that it is due to fuel economy. I am wondering if it is due to a maintenance problem with the DPF? I know that they delayed the introduction of the 2009 models (or was it 2008?) for several months until they worked out bugs in meeting the U.S. emission requirements, though nobody ever detailed what those were.
 
I was on the verge (or so I thought) of buying a 2009 TDI, but don't want to be orphaned with a long-term maintenance problem. Maybe it is all a bad dream and doesn't really amount to anything.
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Re: new car purchase [jim1977] by ruking1
Jun 29, 2009 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: jim1977 (Jun 29, 2009 6:44 am)

On www.tdiclub.com there has literally been ZERO defects on the 09 DPF. There are pretty strong recommendations to use low SAPS motor oil. aka (VW specifications 504/507)
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Re: new car purchase [ruking1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 29, 2009 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 28, 2009 7:06 pm)

There will always be people on either side of the bell curve, but I think you are the exception on the positive side, not the rule, from what I'm reading. Still no complaints about EPA stats on the TDI. I feel confident I could also best the EPA scores.
 
Personally, aside from the gear heads and aficionados, I don't think more than 10% of Americans would buy a diesel even if they guaranteed you 50 mpg $5 a gallon. Why? Because as fuel costs go up, gas engine efficiency, aerodynamic design and weight-saving technology goes up---historically this has always been true at least.
 
so I guess I'm saying that diesel tech is not a solution, but rather an alternative out of many alternatives.
 
for some however, the perfect solution --people like me, who need some cargo capacity, like in a sportwagon, and who drive 20000 miles a year.
 
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Re: new car purchase [Mr_Shiftright] by ruking1
Jun 29, 2009 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 29, 2009 7:02 am)

..."Personally, aside from the gear heads and aficionados, I don't think more than 10% of Americans would buy a diesel even if they guaranteed you 50 mpg $5 a gallon. Why? Because as fuel costs go up, gas engine efficiency, aerodynamic design and weight-saving technology goes up---historically this has always been true at least.
  
so I guess I'm saying that diesel tech is not a solution, but rather an alternative out of many alternatives.
 
for some however, the perfect solution --people like me, who need some cargo capacity, like in a sportwagon, and who drive 20000 miles a year. "...
 
Then I would think we are saying the same things, to you agree with my past posts or recent past posts.
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Re: new car purchase [ruking1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 29, 2009 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 29, 2009 7:17 am)

yes except perhaps you don't think selling diesel cars in America is going to be the marketing challenge that I think it will be?
 
also maybe you are more lenient toward VWs reputation than most people, who I think are rather wary of the company's past record in certain areas---specifically, electronic glitches and dealer service.
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Re: new car purchase [Mr_Shiftright] by ruking1
Jun 29, 2009 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 29, 2009 7:20 am)

On the diesel marketing challenge, a firm NO !!!
 
It might be IF,... say the head bureaucrat/legislator, President Obama did a President Kennedy equivalent (to the moon by June). By saying we need 25% diesel passenger vehicle fleet (63.85 M) by a date certain. My swag of the chances of this? Christ's Second Coming will be sooner. Not to reference a long closed SUV thread, but it took SUV's INXS of 30 years to go from 1/2% of the passenger vehicle fleet to 12% of the passenger vehicle fleet !!!! ??? Even at that SNAILS pace MY growth rate of .00333% per year, some folks saw that as the attack of the Hordes and the end of western civilization as we know it.
 
These folks can't even pass a constitutionally mandated on time budget, but the CA legislature ran into that (on a minor level) when the overwhelming democratic legislature passed a "MANDATORY 3% of CA MY new car sales" to be plug in electric, (some years back) I have read in passing CA has 24 M registered vehicles so an obvious figure would be eventually 720,000 vehicles.
 
This ill conceived effort literally died overnight.
 
I actually bought VW's in SPITE of their reputations. I think it is even apparent to them, they need to work to reverse the negative reputation they have worked so hard in polishing !!??
 
I think the biggest problem is unseen. It is the pursuit of the (next) the "MAGIC BULLET" assumption. Logic would dictate pursuing that led us into this intellectual problem in the first place.
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Re: diesel power service [jogousa] by ndmike88
Jun 29, 2009 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: jogousa (Jun 29, 2009 5:17 am)

Diesel power service is an additive you add to the diesel fuel. I have heard nothing but good things about it. Raises the cetane number, improves performance, better MPG. It's found at Wally World, AutoZone, Advance, Tractor Supply.
Goggle it and see what you think.
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Re: diesel power service [ndmike88] by jogousa
Jun 29, 2009 (2:49 pm)
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Replying to: ndmike88 (Jun 29, 2009 12:56 pm)

Thanks ... never heard before... I have been using RedLine many years ago, when diesel still had high sulphur in my 240D....
 
85 Plus (RedLine)
Designed for use in all diesel engines. Contains extremely powerful lubricants, detergents, seal conditioners, fuel stabilizers and rust preventatives, but without smoke suppressant
 Red Line 85 Plus contains additional cetane improvers which boost the fuel 5-9 cetane numbers and additional lubricants which reduce wear in low sulfur fuel by 75%.
 
This improvement in lubricity and cetane will reduce detonation, assist starting, help reduce smoking, help prevent fuel system wear and leakage and can provide 5% additional power and efficiency.
 
This diesel fuel additive complies with the federal low sulfur content requirements for use in diesel motor vehicles and nonroad engines.
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Re: diesel power service [ndmike88] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 29, 2009 (3:58 pm)
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Replying to: ndmike88 (Jun 29, 2009 12:56 pm)

Nothing in a can can do that I'm afraid. Such claims are spurious IMO.
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Re: diesel power service [jogousa] by ndmike88
Jun 29, 2009 (4:32 pm)
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Replying to: jogousa (Jun 29, 2009 2:49 pm)

RedLine is good stuff also. Several guys at work have diesels and they swear by diesel power service. I bought a jug of it today and I am going to try it. Can't hurt.

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