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Re: new car purchase [ruking1] by m6user
Jun 28, 2009 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 28, 2009 1:32 pm)

VW gets a very respectable 24 mpg on its gasser Jetta's. The like model (diesel 09 Jetta TDI, DSG) on the other hand is almost literally vilified for getting 38 mpg or 58% BETTER fuel mileage !!!!!?????
 
If you use the EPA average mpg for the 09 Jetta gasser, why not use the same criteria when comparing to the 09 Jetta TDI? The EPA avg mpg for the TDI is 33mpg, not 38mpg. Where does the 38mpg come from. Is it some kind of official statistic or is it the result of several TDI affectionados. Some TDI owners get substantially better than the EPA avg and I believe there are probably some gasser Jetta owners that get better than the EPA avg as well. I'm not bashing TDIs by any means but I just like to see statements that appear as fact not be backed by a few people that either are hypermilers or close to it. I see one guy on the Camry forum that is consistenty getting 40mpg out of a reg gasser I4 Camry. That is not the norm by any means and is questionable in my opinion.
 
The EPA website has the Jetta gasser getting a little better than the stated avg with 2 drivers reporting. The Jetta TDI has an average of 40mpg with 21 drivers reporting. While that sounds great and I have no reason to doubt them, it is still just 21 drivers out of thousands which may be as small a sample as 1% or less.
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New TDI by mike91326
Jun 28, 2009 (6:59 pm)
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I just got a new Jetta TDI sedan with DSG. Since this is my first diesel I want to break it in right. How should I drive it over the next 1000 miles to get the best results?
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Re: new car purchase [m6user] by ruking1
Jun 28, 2009 (7:06 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (Jun 28, 2009 6:12 pm)

Not an issue, then use 33/34 mpg. It is STILL 42% better !!!! ???
 
I get an average of 42/43 (79%) and I am NO hyper miler. Indeed the thing will not be broken in for least another 3,000 miles, with 10,000 to 60,000 miles "full" break in. So there is an expectation the mpg will go up from there.
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Re: New TDI [mike91326] by ruking1
Jun 28, 2009 (7:07 pm)
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Replying to: mike91326 (Jun 28, 2009 6:59 pm)

You may want to re-think break in to a MINIMUM of 10,000 miles. Full break in more like 10,000 to 60,000 miles.
 
Break-In Period
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diesel power service by ndmike88
Jun 29, 2009 (3:30 am)
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Anyone use it? Does it really help with the TDI performance? I know it boosts the cetane in the diesel fuel but does it really work? Is it VW approved?
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Re: New TDI [mike91326] by cosmo
Jun 29, 2009 (5:08 am)
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Replying to: mike91326 (Jun 28, 2009 6:59 pm)

ruking1's link is right on. A no-brainer method is to drive in sport mode for the first 5K. Do not go on any long freeway cruises and do not concern yourself with fuel mileage during the first 5K.
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Re: diesel power service [ndmike88] by jogousa
Jun 29, 2009 (5:17 am)
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Replying to: ndmike88 (Jun 29, 2009 3:30 am)

anyone use what Mike?
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Re: diesel power service [ndmike88] by ruking1
Jun 29, 2009 (5:34 am)
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Replying to: ndmike88 (Jun 29, 2009 3:30 am)

Yes. It is supposed to help with TDI performance. After 125,000 miles, I can tell no difference.
I do use it primarily for:
1. H20 emulsification
2. fuel pump lubricity
 
These are all chemical reasons I can NOT see.
 
3. It does boost the cetane,
 
4. boosts power
 
5. offers high detergency
 
6. better mpg
 
7. cleans injectors and combustion system
 
but I really have to take their word for it.
 
VW's official recommendation: no additves are necessary or required.
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Re: new car purchase [longo2] by tdifun
Jun 29, 2009 (6:41 am)
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Replying to: longo2 (Jun 26, 2009 5:46 pm)

I got my Gray DSG TDI jetta from Fitzmall for $20,992. Paided for shipping and was still thousands under what my local dealership could/would do.
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Re: new car purchase [mikemartin] by jim1977
Jun 29, 2009 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: mikemartin (Jun 27, 2009 7:10 pm)

Now you have me worried. I don' want to add a rumor onto a rumor, since we don't really know if they will go the urea system route in 2010, but I also find it hard to believe that it is due to fuel economy. I am wondering if it is due to a maintenance problem with the DPF? I know that they delayed the introduction of the 2009 models (or was it 2008?) for several months until they worked out bugs in meeting the U.S. emission requirements, though nobody ever detailed what those were.
 
I was on the verge (or so I thought) of buying a 2009 TDI, but don't want to be orphaned with a long-term maintenance problem. Maybe it is all a bad dream and doesn't really amount to anything.

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