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#2801 of 4744 Re: Belt or Chain [siberia]
by longo2
Apr 16, 2009 (7:06 am)
I have no idea of why anyone would trade off a perfectly good Jetta TDI with 65,000 considering the engines now finally broken in, and the body style is still the same, but I guess it's not my money.
As for the scarcity of used Jetta TDI's I just checked eBay motors and found over 50 of them with about 65,000 miles, more or less...they are scattered all over the country, especially in the Eastern half, lots of 06's for sale at Texas dealerships..
There are a couple of new, low milage 09's as well.
AOL cars for sale has over 24,000 Jettas listed today, mostly gassers tho.
http://autos.aol.com/used-list/make1-Volkswagen/model1-Jetta
I guess with the new 50 state emmisions cleared 09's with more powerfull motors, there is now a good reason/excuse to trade up.
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/__?_from=R40&_trksid=m39&_nkw=2006+Volkswagon+Jetta+- - TDI&_nd1=
#2802 of 4744 Re: Belt or Chain [longo2]
by ruking1
Apr 16, 2009 (7:14 am)
You might want to check eBay motors and frame the questions in the same way with Honda Civic's, Accords, Toyota Corolla, Camry's. I think it will put the apparant sensationalism you wish to impart on TDI's in perspective.
#2803 of 4744 Re: Belt or Chain [longo2]
by siberia
Apr 16, 2009 (5:54 pm)
I have no idea of why anyone would trade off a perfectly good Jetta TDI with 65,000 considering the engines now finally broken in, and the body style is still the same, but I guess it's not my money.
Actually, we agree on this statement, but this statement being valid does not validate your previous speculation about timing belts being the reason.
Your searching efforts do not relate to when I bought my TDI in March of 2008 when they were really scarce - my fault I left that out. What has changed dramatically since then is the economy. There are a lot of everything for sale now. This is another valid statement that does not make speculation true.
Just for fun I looked at timing belt sites and the makes and models that use them. I had no idea how many and wide spread the use is. Even Toyota Tundras have timing belts. Timing belts are viewed as superior today because they are cheap, quiet and maintain accuracy compared to chains in the physically longer applications of overhead cam engines. I changed a lot of chains on engines in the 60s and 70s that were worn out at 150k miles and the timing was jumping around at idle. The sprockets had to be changed too because the teeth were worn thin. Not especially easy to change either.
I speculate that there are other reasons that TDIs are for sale with your criteria of less than 65k miles.
#2804 of 4744 Re: Belt or Chain [siberia]
by ruking1
Apr 16, 2009 (6:27 pm)
The belts are good/bad news. So for example since I plan to keep a 04 Civic 450,000 miles, it gets the equivalent of a major tune up every 110,000 miles.
One piece of bad news, if you keep it less than 110,000 (what a normal driver keeps the average car for given 7.5 years average fleet age and 12-15k per year) , you bite the bullet for an app $500-600. job. Since, if the belt does break, which is no big deal if it is a NON interference design, it is a BIG deal since it is an interference design. Or if you don't do it a knowledgeable buyer will decrease the offer accordingly. So to me a chain is literally a ticking time bomb, and I am sure a Honda Civic chain drive system will be even more expensive to replace. I would as a min decrease the offer by then, at the very least: the cost of a chain system replacement.
#2805 of 4744 ? 06 tdi with 70k -> new 09/010 tdi ?
by elias
Apr 17, 2009 (4:40 am)
the 09 tdi has a few nifty features for which I car-fantasize about trading 06 tdi for 010 Golf TDI or 09/010 jetta TDI:
- 6 speed manual instead of 5 speed
- significantly more motor, about the same mpg
- wagon/variant/hatchback form-factor
- warranty
- I can't stand the color of my 06!
Even with the bargain-pricing of the 09s a car-trade for another unlikely to happen unless car/house deflation turns around some decade soon..
Also the V6 010 camaro is the same price as 09 jetta TDI variant and available in yellow/orange/day-glo paint...
#2806 of 4744 Re: ? 06 tdi with 70k -> new 09/010 tdi ? [elias]
by gagrice
Apr 17, 2009 (6:42 am)
If you live in a metro area I would list the 06 on Craigslist. I have sold 3 vehicles and bought one on Craigslist and all good transactions. Plus it is free. You will get a LOT more than in trade. Dealers make a killing on used cars. They only sell new to bring in the used cars. Used car market is booming compared to new car sales.
The Camaro is better looking but a gas guzzler by comparison. Both will hold their value better than the competition.
#2807 of 4744 Re: ? 06 tdi with 70k -> new 09/010 tdi ? [elias]
by ruking1
Apr 17, 2009 (7:27 am)
A ditto on Gagrice's take on Craigslist.
While I won't address your last three items; your take on the 6 speed manual and significantly more motor and the same mpg certainly are WOW factors to me.
There is no doubt the current state of the economy gives every potential car buyer pause.
Apr 25, 2009 (8:02 pm)
After 45000 nearly flawless miles, I came home today to find a burning oil smell emanating from 05.5 Jetta TDI. I took a look under the hood but could see nothing obvious, so I pulled in over the grease pit, and saw oil dripping from the plastic skid plate. I pulled that off, and found oil dripping from the bottom of the engine. I wiped it all off, and looked for an obvious source, which I was hoping would be a loosened drain plug from my last oil change, but no such luck. I left off the skid plate, and took it for a short drive, and pulled back in over the pit. This time I could see it dripping from where the engine and transmission are bolted together. There is a thin steel plate between the transmission, and engine, and I could see a small stream of oil running down this plate near the forward most lower bolt holding the engine and tranny together. Just wondering if anyone else has had a similar issue, and what it ended up being, I'm a little worried about it being a cracked crankcase, but I couldn't see a crack, but there is a limited view of the end of the crankcase where it meets up with the tranny.
#2809 of 4744 Re: 05.5 oil leak [sandman52]
by jkinzel
Apr 25, 2009 (9:18 pm)
I’m far from being a mechanic, but I would guess a rear main bearing.
#2810 of 4744 Re: 05.5 oil leak [sandman52]
by longo2
Apr 25, 2009 (9:19 pm)
Sorry to hear that Sandman, you didn't mention if it was a/t fluid or whether your car is a manual.
If it's engine oil, sounds to me like a leaking rear main seal on the motor.
If it's a/t fluid I would be very carefull not to run it dry until you find out for sure.
Is there a "search" for "Jetta TDI engine oil leaks" on this forum?
I just looked around the net a little and found this site which is quite technical (at times) and got 1900 + links to the "Jetta TDI oil leak" questions...perhaps if you have a day or so to read through them all, you might find someone with exactly the same problem...don't laugh it happens.
http://forums.tdiclub.com/search.php?searchid=3685691