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#2762 of 4777 '05 Timing Belt Change?
Mar 30, 2009 (1:49 am)
Can someone out there give me a definitive answer on the timing belt change for a MY-2005 Jetta TDI? I've heard different times and I don't want to push my luck too far.
Mine is a model year 2005, mfg in 2004. The manual states (I think) 90,000mi. However, since my car was on the cusp of the engine/body/manual change I want to be sure that is correct for my vehicle (since I've heard VW has been known to include old or new manuals with the wrong model).
Also, is any service required with the 5-speed?
Mar 31, 2009 (8:56 am)
What kind of fuel economy are others getting on their '09 TDIs??
I bought one in November with the DSG tranny and just had the 10K mile service performed. On my 24 mile commute (averaging about 40 mph) the computer says I average about 41 mpg. When it's warmer, above 50 F, I have averaged above 46 mpg. On a recent trip to Tennessee (at about 68 mph), the best I could get was 42.5 mpg.
Also I was offered an extended warranty to 110K miles (bumper to bumper, I believe, with a $100 deductible) for $1265. The dealer said he was concerned I wasn't protected from failures of all the electronic components on the new TDIs. What do you think about this?
#2764 of 4777 Re: - [longo2]
Mar 31, 2009 (4:17 pm)
Hi, I am new to the forum and the Jetta. Just bought a 2009 Jetta TDI (blue graphite, manual, IPOD, mats) for $500 under invoice. This was a March special Dwight Harrison VW in Atlanta was running. No other dealer in Atlanta came close to their deal although one did offer invoice. Ken Bohannon at Dwight Harrison VW hooked me up and was a pleasure to work with. BTW, I LOVE this car!
#2765 of 4777 Re: TDI MPGs??? [rrollntdi]
Mar 31, 2009 (5:36 pm)
I am close to 15K miles on a 2009 TDI purchased last August. I am averaging, with a mix of about 65% highway and 35% city driving 39 MPG. Both the computer and my miles into gallons of fuel purchased calculation come within 3/10 of a mpg of each other. Just came through winter and I suspect mileage will increase as the warmer weather comes. Of course mileage increses on long hauls. Typically in the 44/45 mpg range on a trip from RI to New Hampshire. I have the 6 speed manual. I love driving this car and have had no problems since purchased. Now with the delta between regular and diesel coming down to around 30 cents per gallon (it was over $1.00 when I bought the car) the economics make even more sense. Diesel can be had for 2.29 / gallon around these parts and regular has passed $2.00/ gallon.
#2766 of 4777 Re: TDI MPGs??? [rrollntdi]
Mar 31, 2009 (8:03 pm)
I too have been pondering the extended warranty. I did not buy it because I always believe that you are just throwing extra money to the dealership. However, the issues of VW's past history of reliability issues is on the back of my mind. I do think though that $1265 is way too much.
What do you veteran TDI owners think?
#2767 of 4777 Re: TDI MPGs??? [Path_Tech]
Apr 01, 2009 (5:29 am)
03,09 TDI's here. One is historical (fact, 115,000 miles) and one is projection (5,000 miles). One is the last ALH engine of the Mk IV body styles. It has the 5 speed manual. The other is the first CBEA engine of the Mk V body styles. It has the "improved" DSG. So they say it is a 100,000 miles warranty, but that is really TILL. The math is more like 100k-36k (factory warranty) or 64,000 miles warranty for the $1265.
So looking at history, I had ( and still have) ZERO defects the 100,000 miles mark. TSB's (minor) and rating a small footnote at that, are covered under warranty anyway. The stuff you would have to do 100,000 miles (09 is now at 120,000 miles) are not covered by warranty/s ANYWAY.
I projected I did not want nor need the extended warranty. History has proved it correct. I did NOT buy an extended warranty for the 03. I used part of that $1265 (if you will) for: 1. oil/filter changes ($165) 2. the required 100,000 milesTB/WP change ($600.) 3. new tires 112,000 miles ($308) 4. non needed alignment ($60.)
Given the same feelings for the 09, I do not project a need for the 36,000 to 100,000 miles extended warranty . It probably needs to be said the durability and reliability have actually gone up. This is despite the additional complexity , (importantly) of both the engine and subsystems and DSG; of which you do not have the DSG.
#2768 of 4777 Re: TDI MPGs??? [ruking1]
Apr 01, 2009 (1:41 pm)
You said you paid $600 for a TB/WP change? Where? Cheapest I can find is near $1300!
#2769 of 4777 Re: TDI MPGs??? [inlarry]
Apr 01, 2009 (2:46 pm)
The best is to be on the look out for a TB/WP GTG.... or find a TDI guru with or without a shop, close to you. Well actually $595, since I did get the so called "upgraded " Laso water pump. It would have been - $25 for the water pump du jour any good vendor sells. You do need to deal with a good vendor. The differences between brass and plastic and resin impellers can be its own discussion. This one happens to have the brass impeller. It replaced the oem, which happened to be a plastic/resin impeller. (hard to tell which, without more technical knowledge)
#2770 of 4777 Re: TDI MPGs??? [rrollntdi]
Apr 02, 2009 (5:42 am)
Thank you to all that replied. It seems as though mileage varies with age and conditions/temperature. I look forward to 45-46 mpg as the temps increase and I get more miles on the engine.
I live in the Detroit area and currently diesel is very close to the price of regular unleaded, and at some stations, even less. I pass a station everyday that is $1.999 per gallon. I really love the car.
Thank you also for the advice on the extended warranty. I think I'll hold onto my $1265 and apply it to the scheduled maintenance.
Beware, I had the first oil change and the dealer put the 505.01 spec oil in instead of the 507.00 oil. If I hadn't looked up the part number of the Castrol oil, I never would have known. I went back and had a second oil chage with the correct oil and a new filter.
When the time comes, I hope I can find a TDI guru locally that will replace the TB and WP for $595. WOW... That is a great price even without the upgraded WP. Anyone know one in the Detroit area?
#2771 of 4777 Re: TDI MPGs??? [rrollntdi]
Apr 02, 2009 (6:03 am)
All the best!! Don't forget to start to ID the set of folks who can/do support 09 VW's. In your case, you have a DSG, if I read your past post correctly (as do I) . The DSG does require the 40,000 miles 5/6 qt fluid/filter change and VAG.com tweak. This can be a DIYer procedure. Technically speaking, it is best to have/have access to the VAG.com.
Since CBEA TB/WP kits are not yet being offered after market and the Bentley's technical data are not even out yet and not a lot of dealers, let alone guru's have done CBEA TB/WP changes, there is a chance the TB/WP R/R procedures can be FAR easier than the MK IV generations'. Indeed the Mk III's had a 250,000 miles WP life expectation.