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Volkswagen Jetta, Biodiesel, Diesel, Sedan
#2741 of 4744 Deal or No Deal
Mar 24, 2009 (8:56 pm)
Tomorow I am going to look at a 2006 Jetta TDI that is for sale by owner. It's white with grey leather interior.
It has the Package 2 options including the power memory seats, steering wheel contols, sun roof, new tires and auto trans. The car has 61,000 miles of mostly hyway driving and has had the VW service shedule since new.
He wants $15,900 dollars for it and seems kind of sentimental about it.
From what I am seeing on the car lots and eBay I don't think I am going to find much that comes close to this deal...
Anyone have any thoughts?
Mar 25, 2009 (6:05 am)
My thoughts would be to buy a new one. I have seen a dealer that has a dozen of them in the $21k range. They are going below invoice now because fuel is cheap.
The new vehicle will cost a little more, but it has a full warranty and the new more powerful engine. Also much higher resale value.
#2743 of 4744 Re: - [dudleyr]
Mar 25, 2009 (6:47 am)
I agree. It is very likely you could buy now for $21k and sell in a year for $24k. I know as I made $3k in a little over a year buying a new 2005 Passat TDI.
#2744 of 4744 Re: - [dudleyr]
Mar 25, 2009 (1:19 pm)
I have now driven three 06 TDI's and find a 'lag' everytime I start through an intersection. If I goose it a little it will then be gone like Jack the Bear, but slowly easing the throttle down doesn't seem to make the 06's happy.
I did my first test drive in a brand new 09' TDI this week and found it to be as smooth as silk everytime I did the intesection test. No hesitation, no stumble, felt great. Very quiet car, and power to spare up to about 70 then it got kind of lazy.
In Montana, Idaho and Utah, the 09's are flying off the lots as soon as they are off the truck, except Great Falls where the dealer is asking $2000.00 over sticker and seems fine with the obvious price gouge.
In todays market I don't think people are that gung ho about being shafted for an extra $2000.00 just because the dealer has got away with that crap in the past.
Idaho...have 'lists' and people with deposits taking the first ones to hit the lot, but at least they are sticking to the MSRP.
Utah.... lots of stock but no discount deals anywhere either...(so far)
Texas seems to have lots of Jettas of all years and models but so far I havn't seen any incentives like 09's for $21,000
I think the advice to spend an extra few Thou' and buy a new 09' is good advice, considering all the issues of paying $16 to $18,000 for a used one off waranty.
Hell, I have looked at several used 06's Jettas that they still want $21,000 for, a car that cost $24,000 3 years ago.
Right now, VW has the market cornered on the green Diesel that gets great mpg's, but there is going to be a new Kid on the Block later this year when Honda rolls out the popular Accord in a TDI option that gets the same or even better mpgs than the Jetta.
Might be a good idea right now to hang tough for a few months and see what the fall market will bring..
#2745 of 4744 Re: - [dudleyr]
Mar 25, 2009 (2:45 pm)
But at the same time, when one already has a TDI, even after running the numbers, it is still attractive to keep it (03 TDI with 114,000 miles).
#2746 of 4744 Used 2005 TDI
Mar 25, 2009 (3:07 pm)
Tomorrow Iím going to look at a 2005 Beetle GLS TDI 5spd manual with 21,400+ miles on it. (Yes, I know, this is the Jetta thread, but I was too lazy to look up a beetle thread). Besides, I miss you guys, sort of.
The dealer is asking $18,999, Blue Book is $19,150
Any thoughts on the price. Seems like there are used TDIís showing up on the lots these days.
#2747 of 4744 Re: - [longo2]
Mar 25, 2009 (5:43 pm)
I have now driven three 06 TDI's and find a 'lag' every time I start through an intersection. If I goose it a little it will then be gone like Jack the Bear, but slowly easing the throttle down doesn't seem to make the 06's happy.
Longo2, my '05 is either lazy or zippy. I was reading the owner's manual and discovered that there is a dual mode program in this vehicle (maybe in the 06 also). I think it was referred to as 'economy mode' and 'sport mode'. I'd have to look again to be sure. Mine drives almost lethargic at low throttle settings in economy mode. I don't know whether it's throttle position or how fast the pedal is moved that sets it off, but when sport mode kicks in it's like a different vehicle.
#2748 of 4744 Re: - [longo2]
Mar 25, 2009 (9:02 pm)
That article was dated 2007! That Honda diesel project was cancelled months ago! -- GR
#2749 of 4744 Re: - [gfr1]
Mar 25, 2009 (10:31 pm)
Yes that story has been around for a while but you havn't been keeping up, anyone interested in TDI's should check Google first and comment second..here's the latest...
"Honda announced at the Tokyo auto show that there will be a US-spec Accord diesel for 2009. The engine displaces 2.2L, and is expected to produce 150 horsepower and 260 lb-ft of torque. Unique to the Honda diesel is the fact that is will not need a urea injection system like Mercedes, but rather will have a NOx converter that produces its own ammonia through a chemical reaction that reacts with the NOx to produce harmless nitrogen and water. The advantage this has over the Mercedes/VW urea unit is that it will not need to be replenished with AdBlue liquid, which is needed for the urea system to work"... Full story here at Autosavant
#2750 of 4744 Re: - [gfr1]
Mar 25, 2009 (10:50 pm)
" It seems the Honda automatic diesel did not pass 50 state emmissions so they pulled the plug. The stick shift did, but they won't bother for such small numbers."-
And more TDI gossip...
"they are rebuilding the engine and are still planning on another emmisons test in time for a 2010 introduction"
Sorry for the assumption that the internet always gets things right the first time.
In any case, I will wait for a better deal on an 09' Jetta TDI.and not hold my breath on Honda getting it's TDI right this year..
The 09' Jetta is amazing in all respects.