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Re: TDI + Squeel/Whistle [swalsh19] by bpeebles
Jan 20, 2009 (4:42 pm)
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Replying to: swalsh19 (Jan 18, 2009 4:44 pm)

Cleaning the EGR means removing the watercooled EGR cooler, I have to assume that you had to disconnect parts of the intake plenum to get at it.
 
Any leaks in the intake plenum will sould like a "whistle" as the turbocharger builds up pressure in the intake system. Check all connections from turbocharger, thru intercooler and into the intake manifold are correctly fitted.
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Trouble with throttle after first start for Jetta TDI by dkgarcia
Feb 04, 2009 (4:41 pm)
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This is our first message. We have a 2004 Jetta TDI. We live in Colorado and are having some cold weather. We had trouble starting it and the mechanic replaced the glow plugs (which did nothing) and then replaced the fuel transfer pump. It now starts ok, but when you step on the throttle, nothing happens. We have to restart the car numerous times and then it will finally throttle up and drive and start great the rest of the day. What the heck is going on?
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Re: Trouble with throttle after first start for Jetta TDI [dkgarcia] by bpeebles
Feb 06, 2009 (6:20 pm)
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Replying to: dkgarcia (Feb 04, 2009 4:41 pm)

I cannot tell you *specifically* what is going on but be aware that a diesel engine DOES NOT have a "throttlebody" like a gasser does.
 
In-fact, the TDI engine does not even have a throttle-cable. Instead the throttle-pedal is simply a rehostat which sends electric signals to the engine computer.
 
I do know that if the vehicle thinks that the brake-pedal is pushed, it will refuse to "throttle up" (your words). Given this, you can try pulling the brake-pedal up by hand and see if this helps the problem.
 
As for your "starting problem"... I would put money on the fact that your IQ is not set correctly. (Injection Quality) This is the #1 reason for hard starting TDI engine.
 
It is easy to check IQ using a VagCom
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Re: Trouble with throttle after first start for Jetta TDI [bpeebles] by gagrice
Feb 06, 2009 (8:19 pm)
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Replying to: bpeebles (Feb 06, 2009 6:20 pm)

I got a feeling they got a part swapping mechanic that does not have a clue about the VW TDI. I would not touch one without a laptop set up for analysis with VagCom. The age of shade tree mechanics has past. Sadly that was me. I just don't have the ambition or the need to get my hands dirty any longer.
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Re: Trouble with throttle after first start for Jetta TDI [bpeebles] by dkgarcia
Feb 07, 2009 (7:56 pm)
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Replying to: bpeebles (Feb 06, 2009 6:20 pm)

When we took it back in to our mechanic, he said something similar about the car thinking the brake was on, so they replaced the brake lamp switch, but it didn't help at all. We tried what you suggested about manually lifting the brake pedal but that also didn't help. This is our first winter for our diesel. What is required for starting them in the winter?
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Re: Trouble with throttle after first start for Jetta TDI [dkgarcia] by bpeebles
Feb 08, 2009 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: dkgarcia (Feb 07, 2009 7:56 pm)

"This is our first winter for our diesel. What is required for starting them in the winter? "
 
The TDIs start very well in the winter. Just wait for the glowplug lite to go out. The colder it gets... the longer it takes for the lite to go out. (more heating required)
 
Many folks find that the TDI is so durn efficent that it does not create enough heat to warm up the cabin. Thusly, they have installed TDI heater which preheats the engine before starting it. I use a TDI heater with a timer which heats for ~2-hours before starting the engine at 5:30AM every morning.
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Re: Trouble with throttle after first start for Jetta TDI [dkgarcia] by dieselbreath
Feb 12, 2009 (9:53 pm)
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Replying to: dkgarcia (Feb 07, 2009 7:56 pm)

If the glow plugs are OK (or at least 2 of them, preferably 3 or 4) then it should fire up right away (assuming that you are waiting for the indicator light to go out before cranking the engine). However, TDIs are harder to start when warmed up because the glow plugs are not turned on after the engine warms up.
So, if the temperature sensor that tells the computer that the engine is warm already fails, then it may not turn the glow plugs on, and then it won't start.
I'm not sure, but I think the symptom would be that the glow-plug indicator lamp on the dashboard would not light up, or would light very briefly.
I've had to change all the glow plugs in my '98 NB TDI, which my son now drives.
Our 2009 Jetta TDI Wagon Hi-Line is being prepped at the dealer, and they have to install the mud flaps and tint the windows before we take posession
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maint cost after 36k miles? by Firebird_EOU
Feb 16, 2009 (10:07 am)
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What's the cost like after 36k miles? such as oil change and other major services?
So the normal oil change interval is 10k miles?
 
Thanks, NJ.
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Re: maint cost after 36k miles? [Firebird_EOU] by ruking1
Feb 16, 2009 (10:20 am)
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Replying to: Firebird_EOU (Feb 16, 2009 10:07 am)

Like anything, that really depends. But other than oil/filter changes fuel/cabin/ air filters (all common to gassers also) and a host of VISUAL inspections (which you can really DIY) the next real major tune is at 120,000 miles, which is best left to a guru to do the timing belt/water pump and Vag.com tune.
 
So if you are the stereotypical car owner that is at the 10th year.
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Re: maint cost after 36k miles? [Firebird_EOU] by bpeebles
Feb 16, 2009 (5:02 pm)
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Replying to: Firebird_EOU (Feb 16, 2009 10:07 am)

I agree with the last appender. The long-term cost of PM (Preventive Maintenance) for diesel engine (at least for VWs) is LESS than for a gasser.
 
This is mostly due to a diesel having absolutely no ignition-system to deal with. (sparkplugs, wires, distributer...etc)
 
Most of the other maintenance costs are about the same. ESPECIALLY since the newer gassers are now Synthetic oil. This makes these 2 engine-types the same in the way of lubrication cost.
 
If I were asked to think of DIFFERENCES between Diesel and gasser in terms of PMs. I would have to say the FUEL FILTER on the diesel is larger. That is about it.
 
Diesel = Larger fuel filter
Gasser = Ignition system components to PM

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