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Volkswagen Jetta, Biodiesel, Diesel, Sedan
#2615 of 4744 Re: Doing some math [morey000]
Dec 11, 2008 (8:37 am)
It is evidenced by my local dealer has a slew of Jetta and Sportwagen TDIs on the lot right now.
That is a direct reflection of the American knee jerk reaction. When I bought my 2005 Passat TDI in April of 05, I was able to buy well under invoice. Diesel was higher priced than RUG. When I sold it 13 months later the prices had switched and diesel was cheaper than RUG. I sold for $3000 more than I paid to a couple from AZ. They could have bought when I did as there was a good supply the year before. Now is the time to buy that VW TDI if you are thinking about it. Under invoice is easy to negotiate. Who knows what tomorrow will bring. If oil jumps and diesel is $4.80 and RUG $4 the diesel is a no brainer.
#2616 of 4744 Re: Doing some math [gagrice]
Dec 11, 2008 (8:48 am)
Even among friends, I don't mention the fuel mileage on the TDI anymore, unless they cue me they are ok with the REAL answer.
#2617 of 4744 Re: Doing some math [ruking1]
Dec 11, 2008 (7:52 pm)
A lot of folks do not consider the long-term maintenance cost when they purchase a vechicle... the TDI is among the lower cost with NO sparkplugs to change, NO ignition wires to change and the 10,000 miles OCI (Oil Change Interval). Even though the fuel and oil filter cost a bit more than gasser.... the overall cost comes out lower in the long run.
When I was looking to purchase my truck (Dodge Dakota), The automatic Xmission cost about $1000 more AND had to be 'serviced' every 25K miles for about $200. I orderd the manual xmission witch added NO xtra cost to my purchase price and needs no more than an occasional check of the lube-level. (Not to mention that automatic xmission tends to be more troublesome than manual.)
I would bet that I was one of the ONLY people that inquired about PM (Planned Maintenance) cost while I was talking to the salesman.
#2618 of 4744 2009 TDI - Oil Change
Dec 12, 2008 (7:42 pm)
New owners of the '09 TDI, do you plan on doing your first oil change at 10,000 miles or earlier? I was having a side conversation with a rep at the VW dealership and he said he would do the first oil change before 10,000 miles because of the possibility of metal chips. What do you all think?
#2619 of 4744 Re: 2009 TDI - Oil Change [c280]
Dec 12, 2008 (8:02 pm)
I do not know what the maintenance requirements for the '09 TDI are, but for the '04 and '06 TDI's the first oil change was due at 5,000 miles. Subsequent oil changes were due at 10,000 miles and then every 10,000 miles thereafter.
#2620 of 4744 Re: 2009 TDI - Oil Change [c280]
Dec 12, 2008 (8:30 pm)
When I purchased my TDI, they said I wouldn't need to be back until 10,000 for the next service. Currently I am at almost 7,000 miles, heading in next week for the 90 day/5,000 miles (kinda passed that up by a few miles, at least it is still under 90 days) courtsey check. I'll ask to see if they think the oil should be changed earlier. I didn't notice anything in the manual either, but I could be wrong.
#2621 of 4744 Re: 2009 TDI - Oil Change [shrifty]
Dec 13, 2008 (2:26 pm)
There are varying opinions as to when to do the first oil change. Some say due to metal chips (because it's a new engine) they rather do it earlier to flush out the metal chips. This is the cautious approach. Others say the oil that comes with the car is designed to help the break-in process so no need to change the oil early. Do you buy the metal chips argument?
Shrifty, I'm impressed. The TDI was released in August and you have already driven 7,000 miles.
#2622 of 4744 metal chips argument is lame
Dec 13, 2008 (3:33 pm)
Alhough there is slim to none chance for "metal chips" to be present in the first place. Any ferrous chips would stick to the magnet which VW has been perminantly installing in every engine for over 30 years. The OIL FILTER would catch any non-ferrous which may get picked up by the oil pump.
I have said this many times before.... only the people who GET PAYED to change oil will tell you you need more frequent oil-changes.
With the TDI engine... the QUALITY of the oil is much more important than the frequency. There have been oil-related failures by people using the WRONG oil....but the properly-speced oil has been shown to go well over 20,000 miles with no unusual wear-particals being detected in the oil-samples.
BEWARE OF VW DEALERSHIPS THAT USE THE WRONG OIL IN YOUR TDI ENGINE!!! (this not an uncommon occourance)
#2623 of 4744 Re: metal chips argument is lame [bpeebles]
Dec 13, 2008 (5:46 pm)
BEWARE OF VW DEALERSHIPS THAT USE THE WRONG OIL IN YOUR TDI ENGINE!
Especially in California where they have little experience with the TDI engine. Drew VW in San Diego that I used for my Passat TDI did carry the proper oil. I got the dealer in Oregon to throw in a case of the correct oil and a couple filters when I bought the car. I did not want to take a chance that the CA dealer would not have the proper oil.
Dec 14, 2008 (10:58 am)
My 2009 TDI is nearing 9000 miles. I checked the odometer calibration since it appeared I was racking up the mileage. It is accurate and I suspect that my enjoyement in driving the 6 speed standard is to blame. Anyway, at about 8000 miles the dash will start to remind you that service is due in about 1500 miles (10K). This is the first hint of service and is consistant with the 10K oil change interval. My car purchase includes the cost of scheduled service for the first 36K miles. This amounts to about 3 oil changes. At the rate I am going that should bring me to the end of 2009.
So far no complaints about the new wheels. Averaging about 38 or 39 mpg in the winter. 50/50 highway driving. Was a bit higher in the summer. I am seeing diesel at about 90 cents more than regular which is nice. Maybe some day it will go back to being less than gas.