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Replying to: elias (Dec 06, 2008 8:14 pm)
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Replying to: c1813 (Dec 09, 2008 6:36 pm) At the start of cold weather (temps around 20 F) I start using anti-gel. Then after a month or so I stop using it (or cut back) on the assumption that treated fuel has worked it's way through the system. If it gets really cold, like below 0, I start using it again at a stronger dose. It's usually this cold for only a few weeks here. |
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When RUG was $4 and Diesel was $4.80, it was only 20% more than RUG. Now that RUG is $1.60 and Diesel is $2.40 - it's 50% more per gallon. (these are typical prices in Tucson) So, if you were comparing a diesel with a regular car that got 22mpg avg, the diesel would need to now get 33mpg in order to 'break even' whereas 6 months ago, it would only needed to have gotten 26 mpg. If we compare it to a 40mpg Prius (I know, they often get higher than that), this summer the diesel would have needed to get 48mpg to break even. Now- 60mpg. Of course, gas prices won't stay this low (or, at least I hope not, as that means the world economy is in the tank), but it does mean that plenty of Jetta TDI's will be sitting on lots ready to be sold at a steep discount. 
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Replying to: morey000 (Dec 10, 2008 8:53 am) I am not sure what that means; but i.e., the last time I checked a 03 VW Jetta 1.8T/2.0 sold for easily 4k LESS than a 03 VW Jetta TDI. What do you mean by your quote?
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Replying to: c1813 (Dec 09, 2008 6:36 pm) |
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 10, 2008 9:02 am) that much of the impetus for purchasing a Jetta TDI has likely waned, in addition to the effects of the financial crisis in the country. It is evidenced by my local dealer has a slew of Jetta and Sportwagen TDIs on the lot right now. I am an example, as we were looking at replacing my wife's 7 year old BMW 3-series, potentially with a TDI. But, in light of the economy and drastically lower fuel prices, we decided the Bimmer is fine and we can wait another year. |
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Replying to: morey000 (Dec 10, 2008 11:21 am) ( Honda, Toyota, etc.,are hurting.) You can shoot a cannon off in a Honda/Toyota dealership and damage a lot of inventory) It makes all the sense in the world to keep used cars as long as possible regardless of the current economic climate. So IF you are in the market FOR a (new, I just cited the almost 4k advantage a used VW TDI has over a VW gasser) TDI Jetta etc., THEN now is the time  invoice or if the opportunity presents itself, LESS than invoice !! I got mine at invoice plus a small profit. I also got a Civic at 10% under invoice and the economic situations weren't anything NEAR what it is now. A relative just recently got an (new) Acura 4,000 BELOW invoice. .9% (less than 1% financing) was also offered. |
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Replying to: morey000 (Dec 10, 2008 11:21 am) That is a direct reflection of the American knee jerk reaction. When I bought my 2005 Passat TDI in April of 05, I was able to buy well under invoice. Diesel was higher priced than RUG. When I sold it 13 months later the prices had switched and diesel was cheaper than RUG. I sold for $3000 more than I paid to a couple from AZ. They could have bought when I did as there was a good supply the year before. Now is the time to buy that VW TDI if you are thinking about it. Under invoice is easy to negotiate. Who knows what tomorrow will bring. If oil jumps and diesel is $4.80 and RUG $4 the diesel is a no brainer.
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 11, 2008 7:37 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 11, 2008 7:48 am) When I was looking to purchase my truck (Dodge Dakota), The automatic Xmission cost about $1000 more AND had to be 'serviced' every 25K miles for about $200. I orderd the manual xmission witch added NO xtra cost to my purchase price and needs no more than an occasional check of the lube-level. (Not to mention that automatic xmission tends to be more troublesome than manual.) I would bet that I was one of the ONLY people that inquired about PM (Planned Maintenance) cost while I was talking to the salesman. |
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