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Replying to: bottgers (Oct 17, 2008 5:56 am) I would say that if your main concern is cost of ownership the Toyota would be the way to go. If you factor in the "fun to drive" issue you'll like the TDI. |
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Replying to: driverbern (Oct 17, 2008 6:34 am)
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Replying to: altair4 (Oct 17, 2008 7:11 am)
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Replying to: altair4 (Oct 17, 2008 7:11 am) The waste heat output of a diesel engine is much less than the waste heat output of a conventional gasoline engine of the same power, especially at idle. In fact, some diesels are not supposed to be run indefinitely at normal idle, even in warm weather. The engine temp will drift down and down to a level at which excess engine wear occurs. The diesel engined Mercedes Sprinter vans have a so called "high idle" option so that the engine can be run above normal idle for extended periods while stopped in heavy traffic or holding passengers while stopped. This high idle keeps the engine temp in the correct operating range at the expense of higher fuel consumption. The waste heat from the engine is what is used to heat the passenger compartment. So diesels will not heat the passenger compartment as rapidly as a gasser. |
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Replying to: cosmo (Oct 17, 2008 7:32 am) |
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Replying to: olive4 (Oct 17, 2008 6:19 am) you're not getting a car fresh out of the drawing table. In case you wonder diesel is readily available i believe 42% of stations carry diesel in the USA specially stations along the freeways, just make sure to keep paper towels in your trunk the truck drivers are very careless when handling pump nousals, they're mostly slimy, but this car is well worth it. if you end up buying the car know you're not gonna be driving just another basic car as this cars come with lots of features as standard equipment. Good luck.
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Replying to: noa1 (Oct 17, 2008 10:36 am)  42%. In 03 when I bought the TDI, it was pegged 25% aka 1 in 4 fuel stations. At the time I had absolutely NO issues getting fuel. Being as how the passenger diesel fleet has contracted 33% from less than 3% to 2%, my swag is new TDI owners will have even less issues.
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Replying to: bottgers (Oct 17, 2008 5:56 am) "How reliable are they" Using the design life-expectancy of the engine (given in hours) and some math (assuming 50MPH average speed)....the TDI engine is rated for at least 300,000 miles. Keep in mind this same basic engine is used in marine applications to move boats over the ocean. "How hard are they to start in cold weather?" Not hard at all... STARTING is not an issue at all. (My TDI starts just fine at -15F) "how long does the engine have to run before they start producing heat from the heater?" Depends on many variables. On a cold morning, (-15F) it may take 10-20 miles of driving. HOWEVER, if you turn the heat all the way up... the engine will NEVER EVER come up to temp. because the heater-core can pull more heat out of the engine than it can create. Never owning a diesel, or a VW before, is there anything else I need to consider? Consider adding diesel-fuel additive at EVERY fillup. There are many benefets including 2-4 more MPG, longer fuelpump life and quieter running. Also, do not assume the dealership knows how to effectively maintain diesel engines beyond basic stuff. You MUST use special oil which is not readilly available in North America. (I order all my supplies from tdiparts.com) Unlike Asian automobiles which can be pretty much ignored... VWs are better off when meticulusly maintained per the reccomended schedule. Best of all.... it is WONDERFUL to be able to travel 700+ miles per tank of fuel!!!! |
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Replying to: noa1 (Oct 17, 2008 10:36 am) |
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Replying to: bpeebles (Oct 17, 2008 1:42 pm) Is this pretty much the case with even the newer models? I live in Chicago area and normally get nice hot air from my cars(gassers) in about 1 to 3 miles depending on outside temp. How about weather that is between 0-20F, would it take anywheres near that long? I know there are a lot of positives to owning one but waiting 10-20 miles(15-30 minutes???) for the interior to warm up would be kind of a bummer.
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