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Volkswagen Jetta, Biodiesel, Diesel, Sedan
#2231 of 4744 Re: transmission [malmouza]
Aug 15, 2008 (12:46 pm)
Drove an 09 TDI. Not fond of the DSG or spongy suspension. Wife has DSG in her A3 - worried about signs of wear that we're seeing at 25k miles (lots of clutch slipping). Wish the VW dealer had a TDI wagon 6 MT on the lot as I'd like to know how that car feels to really drive. The sedan isn't really an option as I already view the TDI as a compromise and shortterm car, but the sedan would be too big of a compromise.
While the Jetta felt nice, engine good and overall quality seemed fine, I'm very worried the Jetta will be too soft and under-powered for me to use as a daily driver. Further, FWD is tought to live with day in and day out (I have it in my Cooper S and FWD really saps the fun from cars).
Comparing the TDI to the GTI, Clubman S, Ralliart, WRX, used 3 series. So far as far as cost, fuel, resale the TDI is doing great - that $1300 tax CREDIT is a huge plus. On the fun-to-drive scale my wife's extremely worried I'll hate the car within 6 months. Haven't touched the Ralliart or 09 WRX yet. I know the e90 3 series well (got one via ED in 2006); don't love it but I miss RWD and it's one of the only 4 door RWD sedans that's decent to drive while getting fairly good gas mileage.
#2232 of 4744 Re: transmission [blueguydotcom]
Aug 15, 2008 (1:15 pm)
You sound like a candidate for the BMW 335d coming in about a month or less. They say it will outrun their gasser. That would be something to drive.
#2233 of 4744 Re: 2009 Jetta TDI Article [malmouza]
Aug 15, 2008 (1:34 pm)
That article is biased. The fact that author explain in more technical detail the transmission of the Jetta, something that the manufacturer does not release to general public or to the automotive critics;
This statement is nonsense, the information was available to the general public. My brother bought a new 2006 TDI DSG and we knew the design of that DSG transmission before he made the purchase. We found information on the DSG in the fall of 2005 on the internet. This type of transmission has been aound a while in Europe.
Here is just one site explaing how the DGS works:
#2234 of 4744 Re: MSRP Sales Price for Jetta TDI? [waruss61]
Aug 15, 2008 (2:00 pm)
If you are in the Northeast, try Wyoming Valley Motors out in Wilkes Barre, PA. I got my order in, no down, ETA end of Sept or early Oct. I live in NYC but travel to PA a lot, so that was not much of a stretch for me. Your situation may be different. If you live near a big city, try the outskirts. You'll be surprised, people outside of NYC are so much more agreeable. Good luck.
#2235 of 4744 New Jetta TDI's on there way
Aug 16, 2008 (4:07 pm)
I live near the port in Rhode Island were VW's and Audis are brought in I assume for the northeast. Today I drove by the hundreds of cars waiting to be prepped and shipped. I did see a new Jetta TDI on a car carrier waiting to be shipped. There were others which seemed to be waiting prep work.
Needless to say I am waiting for the call from my dealer to come in and pick mine up.
Any other sightings?
#2236 of 4744 Available TDI?
Aug 16, 2008 (6:32 pm)
I got a call this afternoon from my local VW dealer telling me he has 4 TDI Jetta sedans available, 2 DSG and 2 manual, didn't mention trim level.
Too bad I already purchased a new car. I'm wondering why these are not sold? According to all/most of the dealers they were all "pre sold". Are people backing out? Maybe they were not all pre sold and not going as fast as they thought they would. If so, serves them right.
I like the Taurus, I think. I haven't seen it thirteen days, but the wife tells me its great.
#2237 of 4744 DSG or manual transmission??
Aug 16, 2008 (6:43 pm)
Can someone give me some honest advice regarding which way I should go with the Jetta TDI (assuming I will have my choice). My last standard was a 1982 Ford F150. While I think I would enjoy the standard I wonder if it will get old. On the flip side, I keep my cars a long time (hence the diesel) and am looking for minimal maintenance.
Any help or insight would be appreciated.
#2238 of 4744 Re: DSG or manual transmission?? [littlerhody]
Aug 16, 2008 (8:28 pm)
For sure, the answers are probably more complex. From what I have experienced (35 mins test drive ) I thought the 09 VW Jetta DSG that I test drove, was for all intents and purposes as seamless as an automatic. I literally put the thing in "DRIVE" and just went. I did not "row" my own. I do want to test drive one again and go through the gears.
To anwer your question, the standard (6 speed manual) WILL probably get old. I truly like the 4/5/6 speed manuals, but do NOT like them much in stop and go bumper to bumper traffic. However much of the driving I have found myself doing has not been of that type. On recent cars, I have maybe 431,000 miles on stick shifts. On the flip side I have had ZERO issues with manual transmissions. On VW's specifically, the life expectancy is app 400,000 miles. The cost to replace the clutch (upgraded V6 model) currently is app 700-800 dollars vs upwards of 2,000 for an automatic transmission. I have an automatic transmission on a Honda Civic. I suspect and have planned (started to set aside repair monies) for the automatic transmission to go before the engine. So truly upwards of $ 2,000 for repairs, I hope I can dodge that huge bullet. It is most likely to go out app 225,000 to 250,000 miles.
#2239 of 4744 Re: DSG or manual transmission?? [littlerhody]
Aug 17, 2008 (2:54 pm)
The manual-shift xmission will inherantly have less troubles than any other xmission. If you know how to drive one, it never gets old and you do not even think about it.
Also, the manual requires less maintaince.... which is apparently one of your priorities. A TDI with a manual xmission is VERY easy to drive due to the truckloads of torque. You can enguage the clutch at idle and the car will pull away from a dead stop without problem. If you drive a TDI in this manner, the original clutch will last the life of the engine. (over 200K miles)
#2240 of 4744 Picked up Salsa Red '09 TDI
Aug 17, 2008 (6:13 pm)
I picked up a Salsa Red Jetta TDI on Friday the 15th. I initially wanted the manual but ended up with the DSG. The dealer had a Black stick shift and a Salsa Red when I went in Friday afternoon. They called stating they received 4 or 5 TDIs. After driving the manual and the DSG back to back I decided on the DSG. Didn't feel the torque as much in the manual. I felt it more in the DSG. Paid MSRP based on first come first serve. I was expecting the dealer to get the Loyal Edition first but it appears that they only received TDI sedan and TDI wagon. Ended up paying for the sunroof ($1,000) and rubber mats ($199). By the time I got there, two of the TDIs were sold. I had a choice between Black/black manual or Salsa Red DSG with beige interior. Went with the DSG.