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Replying to: pat (Jun 28, 2004 2:08 pm)
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I am looking to buy a new jetta TDI this september. I have heard that diesel can have some problems starting in cold weather. Where i live i get all 4 seasons so it can get pretty cold during the winter. Any suggestions for me?? And is this even true? thanks |
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| And I totally forgot about the oxygen sensor when I posted #2. I guess it shows no car is perfect. I did enjoy the mileage I got in my TDI. 38-40 MPG with an automatic. Like I said, never an engine problem. | |
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Replying to: jclarke (Jun 28, 2004 5:28 pm)   But let me be clear. Since VW AM is the warrantor, one should use the specified oil i.e., meets the VW specification of 505.01, specifically: Castrol and Motul. VW 505.01 is VERY common in Europe, but obviously not yet as common in the USA- 2004. Having said that, my guess is that the new oil is more for the longevity of emissions parts than anything else. Direct oil analysis of bottled VW 505.01 vs say Delvac One shows that the VW 505.01 brew has less of the normally considered attibutes. I have a 2003 TDI (CI-4 specification or VW 505.00) and have been using and will continue to use Delvac One or AKA, Mobil One Truck and SUV -5w40.
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Thanks for the post. Dealer near me has the exact car I want...Jetta TDI wagon with leather. 2 issues. One, at $24k and change list, this is only about $2k less than a Passat TDI with leatherette. Second, isn't there a redesign for 05? Although I heard that the wagon may not be here until 06. Do you know better?
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Replying to: mpgman (Jun 29, 2004 7:05 pm) 2. 05 will remain the same, maybe some bugs fixed, that all. The redisign jetta line will be 06. I will get the 05 wagon ASAP. |
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Replying to: mpgman (Jun 29, 2004 7:05 pm) Love it! Beyond the fuel economy, the car really rolls. But please drive safely and watch your speed, buddy. I'm 50 years old, generally a very cautious guy, and my teenage son is practically holding my foot off the gas. The GLS Jetta with leather would be a beautiful little car. A few tips: first, you shouldn't have to pay $24k to get it . We paid $19,577 (including freight), plus taxes, tags, and the stupid $99 "documentation" fee. I did not consider that a screaming deal, but it also included $280 (MSRP) for the Electronic Stabilization Program ( a very desirable option). Moving up to GLS and leather should add about $3k max, I believe (check it out). Now, automatic would add about another $1k -- but would you really want that? This is a sporty little car and in my opinion, if you can drive a stick, that is the way to equip it. As for the Passat, I don't know how old you are or what your family situation is, but I've driven both cars and believe me, a manual transmission Jetta TDI is a more fun than the Passat TDI w/automatic. Not exactly a Porsche, but If you're as old as I am, the Jetta's like a blood transfusion. With Viagra slipped in. If you do go for the Passat (a very nice, roomier car), pass on the "leatherette" unless you've got a pack of barfy little kids. That stuff is HOT (and I don't mean sexy.) |
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| This is the tough thing with VW...supply. The Jetta GLS TDI they have has exactly the epuipment I want...save perhaps for the auto. At 54, we are in the same league. What kind of mileage are you getting with the manual? If I add up the GLS, leather and auto from what you paid I am right back to $24k. Perhaps leasing for 2-3 years would be a better deal given the expected high residual? For a list of $24,460 and with the dealer having only one, I wouldn't seem to be in the best position to get a great deal if I really want the car. I wonder if just getting the Passat Wagon with the 1.8 and the hot leatherette isn't really the best buy period? Even the GL is well equipped if you can live without the roof. I drove a Passat TDI wagon but at EPA 27 city, am not sure the diesel option provides a real mpg advantage if the 1.8 can deliver in the low 20s. Can it? I may go for the Jetta anyway, but paying in the low to mid 20s for a Jetta seems a bit high given the price range of the full Passat line. | |
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Replying to: mpgman (Jul 03, 2004 5:24 am) $24K seems a lot to pay for a Jetta. As I said, I paid $19577 (including freight, before taxes/tags/doc). GLS, leather and auto add up to what -- a little under $4K, I guess (which of course you'll pay if you want them on other vehicles, too). So yeah, maybe it would be close to $24K if the dealer is unwilling to budge. In that case the only way to cut your cost is to wait for a car without some of those options, or for a GL. That is basically what I did. I called and called, all around, and finally connected with a sales guy who monitored all the incoming shipments for an area dealer. Then I made a deposit on a car that was still on its way. Another dealer here had a Passat GLS, TDI, at 26-something. That seems like a better value to me than a Jetta for only $2k less. It depends on what you need and want. For us, the Jetta is a second car. If it is your only vehicle, you would welcome the extra room in the Passat any time you have more than one passenger who isn't an elf. But you'll loose some fuel economy, and pay more to buy it. The price spread between a Passat diesel and gas model, all else being equal, is only a couple hundred dollars. There surely is enough mpg advantage from the diesel Passat (7-8 mpg?) to make that back quickly (IF you can find one). As for the leatherette seats, they have the advantage of low maintenance. If you agree they feel hot, you can always get some seat covers. Then you can expect to have an easily cleaned interior at trade-in time. |
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