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Prius and gas pumping in Oregon by rpgolfer
Jun 26, 2004 (4:21 pm)
I have mixed reactions about someone pumping gas for me. I started my career in 1973 with Chevron-Texaco...pumping gas. I retired a year ago after 30 years in the refinery. I learned to be presentable and customer-friendly. My experiences at gas stations in Oregon have been mixed. Some of the people I've had pump gas wouldn't be the first people I'd consider hiring. I know that my sound rude to some and I apologize but just pumping gas seemed to be enough of a challenge to them. Most people were helpful and pleasant. But some seemed entry-level at best. I've asked simple directions and received shrugged shoulders.
  Unfortunately, full service stations are few and far between. Thank goodness today's automobiles last a long time because if people don't check their air, water, oil level, etc., they'd be hurting. If California did something like this it would definitely give people jobs and I'm all for that. The only problem would be if dealers raised their prices to pay for labor.
   The previous reviewer noted driving a Prius on Maui. Oh, just the thought of that.... When I was in Central Oregon (city of Bend), my trips between golf courses yielded me over 50 mpg!! The terrain is high desert and basically flat or else Oregon adds a little something special in its fuel.
Thanks,
Rich
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Re: Prius and gas pumping in Oregon [rpgolfer #42] by djasonw
Jun 26, 2004 (4:28 pm)

Replying to: rpgolfer (Jun 26, 2004 4:21 pm)

I prefer to gas my own too. All too often the attendant fails to tighten the cap tightly. They also tend to want to top off, which from what I have been reading is not a good thing.
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Re: Prius and gas pumping in Oregon [djasonw #43] by gagrice
Jun 26, 2004 (5:11 pm)

Replying to: djasonw (Jun 26, 2004 4:28 pm)

We always filled at Costco and the attendants were very professional. One tank in the Taurus was pushing 500 miles from Medford to Astoria driving the entire coast. Did I say that was a decent car and comfortable. It averaged over 27 mpg for the 1350 miles we drove that week.
 
I do know what you mean, if they start slopping it down the side of your car. I would freak out. It just seems a good way to provide an alternative entry job to working at Burger King. I feel for young people trying to make it today. It is tough here in CA where the median house just hit $500,000.
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Prius rental on Maui by rpgolfer
Jun 27, 2004 (6:35 am)
Hi gang,
  I think having a Prius rental on Maui would be great. We were there in 1997 and rented a Mustang convertible...ooh la la!! The sights and especially the smells are wonderful. The roads that the rental companies don't want you to drive on are listed on the rental agreements and they even have road signs designating a road unsuitable for rental vehicles due to remote access, rough roads, etc. I did take the Mustang on a one-lane road that connected two cities and other than a few harrowing cliffs nearby, we got through and was able to see a lot of small villages (hamlets?) and gorgeous scenery.
   Can you imagine the questions and problems "outsiders" may experience trying to negotiate a Prius? I know it's not difficult to drive a Prius, but you have to admit, it takes a few months to fully appreciate and utilize all that the Prius has to offer.
Thanks,
Rich
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Re: Prius rental on Maui [rpgolfer #47] by gagrice
Jun 27, 2004 (6:55 am)

Replying to: rpgolfer (Jun 27, 2004 6:35 am)

I will check in September if they have any Prius vehicles in the rental pool on the Big Island. With the shortage it is doubtful as car rental companies never pay a premium, always fleet discounts. Actually on the Big Island there are hundreds of miles of roads that you should have a 4WD. Some that they say are off limits are just narrow and you have to use caution passing oncoming traffic.
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C/D review of Prius, HCH, Jetta TDi, and ECHO by backy
Aug 03, 2004 (10:59 am)
C/D just did an interesting comparison of four high-fuel-economy cars: Prius, Honda Civic Hybrid, Jetta TDi, and ECHO. Their verdict was:
 
HCH - 91 Points: "It's a Honda... Driving is always fun in Hondas" etc.
 
Prius - 90: "This is a spaceship, a purposeful thrust into Futureland where saving fuel is Job One. ... The Prius is as much a promise as it is a car."
 
Jetta TDi - 78: "Bland is bad in cars. Diesels don't know how to be bland. ... A few of us really get off on them. It's not explainable."
 
ECHO - 3: "This is Metamucil for the road--you'll go, and you'll be glad when it's over."
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Re: Elantra v Prius [tempusvn] by stevedebi
Aug 03, 2004 (3:33 pm)

Replying to: tempusvn (Jun 26, 2004 12:12 pm)

"But, as far as transporting more than two people in comfort, let's see.
 
Rear Leg Room
 
Crown Vic 39.6
Prius 38.6
Camry 37.8
Accord 36.8
Mazda 6 36.5
 
For a Cross Country Trip with 4 people, explain to me again how the rear seat passengers are going to be more comfortable in the "Mid Size" Cam/Cord/6?
 
Luggage Capacity
 
Crown Vic 20.6
Camry 16.7
Prius 16.1
Mazda 6 15.2
Accord 14
 
Oooh, those Mid Size Accord buyers are all set to load up those suitcases.
"
 
How about a CR-V
 
Rear leg room = 39 inches
 
Cargo = 33 Cu Ft.
 
If desired, the rear seats can be slid foward to create a 36" rear leg room and about 40 Cu Ft of storage. Oh, and the rear seats also recline (don't know if the Prius has this option).
 
Also, what you fail to mention is that the Prius uses more vertical storage than other vehicles, which means it has less floor space (square footage).
 
Of course, the CR-V is one of those hated "SUVs"... though it probably gets about the same MPG as a Crown Vic (I get 27 MPG highway).

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