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Prius vs Malibu Maxx by gagrice
Mar 13, 2005 (10:25 am)
As long as we are comparing vehicles to the Prius, I think the Malibu Maxx is a much better comparison than a Hummer. The Maxx has more room than the Prius. It is a large hatchback and gets 30 mpg on the highway. Edmund's consumer rating has it equal with the Prius at 9.3 for the leather version with DVD, sunroof. The price is about the same or less. There is no artificial shortage to boost the prices. I think it is a good choice for a family looking for a nice hatchback.
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Re: Prius vs Malibu Maxx [gagrice] by xcel
Mar 13, 2005 (10:59 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 13, 2005 10:25 am)

Hi Gagrice:
 
      If you want to lose a huge % of the value of the automobile the second it is driven off the lot, the Chevrolet Malibu MAXX is a good choice.
 
TCO’s
 
Prius II $25,676 purchase: $0.42/mile
Malibu Maxx LS $23,824 purchase: $0.45/mile
 
KBB TIV
2004 w/ 15,000 miles
 
Prius II: $17,235
Malibu Maxx LS: $10,715

      If you want to speak in terms of real costs, the Malibu Maxx is a very poor choice. If you want to speak about size and amenities, you can pick up a new Ford Crown Vic or 500 for ~ $20K.

Good Luck

Wayne R. Gerdes
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Hey guys... by Sylvia STAFF
Mar 13, 2005 (11:13 am)
Let's not have a re-hash of beat each other up. Make your statement, agree to disagree and move on.
 
Thanks.
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Re: Prius vs Malibu Maxx [xcel] by gagrice
Mar 13, 2005 (11:59 am)

Replying to: xcel (Mar 13, 2005 10:59 am)

If you want to speak in terms of real costs, the Malibu Maxx is a very poor choice.
 
It seems that one of the selling points of the Prius is the hatchback. That was more of the basis for comparison. Also my recent experience renting a Malibu was good. I drove it for 8 days and averaged 27.2 MPG mostly around town. It was much roomier feeling than the Accord or Camry that I sat in. I was also comparing the Maxx LT with all the doodads. I never buy stripped models as they are much harder to sell when that time comes.
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Re: Prius vs Malibu Maxx [gagrice] by backy
Mar 13, 2005 (1:40 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 13, 2005 11:59 am)

I agree, the Maxx is a good comparo to the Prius, since both are 5-passenger hatchbacks. I looked at both closely when buying a hatchback last year. The Maxx tops the Prius in rear-seat legroom (although the Prius is no slouch there), has a little more room in the cargo compartment, and has some options the Prius does not such as rear-seat DVD and OnStar. The main reasons I took the Maxx off my list is that I didn't need the extra rear-seat legroom and cargo space (Prius had enough for my needs), and the small price premium of the Prius ('04 pkg 3) compared to the V6 Maxx with comparable equipment would be more than made up by fuel savings, considering most of the miles would be around-town driving where the Prius really shines vs. a V6. But the Maxx is a nice car, Chevy's best I think.
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RE: The resale of the Prius - xcel by drfill
Mar 13, 2005 (4:35 pm)
Try getting a 2004 $25k Prius for $17k
 
   Those things are like Mini Coopers! You are paying over $20k, no doubt!
 
   Sales have skyrocketed this year for Prius! I guess the supply boats are in.
 
   DrFill
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RE: The resale of the Prius - xcel [callmedrfill] by xcel
Mar 13, 2005 (11:25 pm)

Replying to: drfill (Mar 13, 2005 4:35 pm)

Hi Callmedrfill:
 
      The KBB prices quoted above are TIV’s. You will more then likely receive less if you were trading in an 04 Prius II or Malibu Maxx w/ $15K on the clock. PP and Retail are altogether different but the delta’s are still there. If you want to bring the Accord into the discussion, it trumps everything in this discussion in terms of holding value …
 
      Good Luck
 
      Wayne R. Gerdes
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Re: [gagrice]WHAT'S IT ALL ABOUT? [railroadjames] [gagrice] [backy] [gagrice] by midnightcowboy
Mar 14, 2005 (8:27 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 12, 2005 10:12 pm)

The 250,000 was the total number of CR respondents for ALL vehicles, not just the lowly Prius!
 
Actually, CR is one of the better indicators of vehicle problems and relaibility. If you don't like it what do you gauge your opinion or thoughts on? JD Powers does pretty good on intitial quality. NHSTA does pretty good on out-and-out failure recalls. There is no perfect source; that is the reason for a valid statistical sample , with distibution and stnadard deviation, etc. Look at any polling or predicition theory. It not as simple as perfect hindsight, because we can't say that a traction battery will last 8.123 years with a standard deviation of 1.32 years yet. In ten years you will be able to go back and make as exact of statement as you want. For example who could have predicted that the USA civil war was going to last from 4:30 am April 12, 1861 through April 9, 1865 (hh:mm ?)
 
Cheers,
 
MidCow - you have to understand statistics to be able to predict the future. Anyone, can predict the past.
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Re: [gagrice]WHAT'S IT ALL ABOUT? [railroadjames] [gagrice] [backy] [gagrice] [midnightcowboy] by gagrice
Mar 14, 2005 (11:58 am)

Replying to: midnightcowboy (Mar 14, 2005 8:27 am)

If you don't like it what do you gauge your opinion or thoughts on?
 
Any number of forums, and especially Edmunds, that have REAL live people giving their experiences with their vehicles. Not a nameless, faceless number purported to represent Real owners of real vehicles put out by CR, a company I consider suspect in their agenda. I have no opinion on JD Powers never have read one of their reports. I have said this before. I consider your opinion & the opinions of the other posters much better real time information than magazine and statistical data from people that get paid to present information.
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Actually .... by midnightcowboy
Mar 14, 2005 (12:52 pm)
Real Opinions and experiences, such as the Edmunds forum, are good input. But,Consumer Reports is probably more accurate, only because it is a better overall statistically correct sample.
 
I never buy anything based on only testimonial advertising; now those people are really paid and are really the exceptions. Biggest example that comes to mind is the bow-flex grandmother.
 
Good luck everyone !
 
MidCow

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